Me-262 losses the 21st February 1945.

[Ruy Horta]

Originally Posted by ironrat

Well, the difference between GMT and German time is 1 H, as I wrote the Me-262 took of after 17 00 H, 17 08H based on the document, if you add a few houndreds km to fly before reaching the encounter place... I don't think so. The Me-262 in Holland was downed at 17 30-17 40, near Volkel base which seams possible to me.

The difference TODAY is 1 hour.

I've read that Dutch time and German time differed 01:40 back in 1940, I do not know where this dutch time stood relative to GMT, but you see that things may not be so straightforward afterall.

[ironrat]

I'm not an expert in the firld of Me-262, if somebody could help me more or at least point out were to look for.

I compared today the list from Stormbirds with Osprey's "German Jet Aces of WWII". In the book there is mention of OFW Helmut Baudach who bailed out wounded near Schonwalde (Niederbayern). The book is giving the date 21st of Feb. 1945 (yes!!), but Stormbirds gives 22nd of Feb. Which one is the right one?

By the way. I've got from a friend Tony Wood's list for the 1939/1940 period. There are a lot of errors on the list, at least concerning the types of planes downed in September 1939 over Poland. How could I contact Tony?

Regards
Ironrat

[George Hopp]

Times are a big trial, because the UK used double Daylight Saving Time during the summer, so, what did it use during the winter? I ask because local times were often used rather than GMT, and I am just wondering if the two were the same where the 356th FG was based.

[Jaap Woortman]

Originally Posted by George Hopp

Times are a big trial, because the UK used double Daylight Saving Time during the summer, so, what did it use during the winter? I ask because local times were often used rather than GMT, and I am just wondering if the two were the same where the 356th FG was based.

See at http://www.lwag.org/reference/HrLp001d.pdf in chapter 3. Timing differences etc...

Jaap

[KrisJG3]

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=83505581

[Jaap Woortman]

Rohde crashed at Schayk just north of Volkel Air Base.

Jaap

[John Manrho]

The fate of Ofhr. Gerhard Rohde, geb. 25.12.1914 Brunshaupten, was formally solved in August 2005. He crashed on 21.2.1945 near Schayk (north of Volkel airfield) in his Me 262A-2a, Werknummer 170199, 9K+??. he belonged to 1./KG 51. He was initally buried in a field grave and reburied at Ysselsteyn Cemetery Grave CI-12-300. He remained unknown until August 2005.

Driving force behind the identification was Adri Ekstijn. My role was to collect more evidence in documents and presenting it in the proper way to the WASt and VDK. Joe Potter found also some additional evidence.

Basically the evidence consisted of;
D.23816 Report of Burial Transfer RvO CI-12-300 dated 7.3.1950
D.23816 Reidentification effort CI-12-300 dated 17.4.1963
Police report dated 5.7.1945 concerning crash on 22.2.1945
RAF Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report No. 268 dated 30.3.1945.
ORB 2809 Squadron RAF Regiment
ORB 2834 Squadron RAF Regiment
RL2-III-1197
Flugbücher I./KG 51
AIR2/8728 Burial Slip Ofw. Gerhard Rohde

[RolandF]

Can WerkNr 170199 be correct? There´s a huge gap between WNr 170124 and 170270...
I have alternatives 170099 and 500099 while 500099 seems very questionable to me.

Regards

Roland

[John Manrho]

Not sure, seems unlikely......however, the only source (RL2-III-1197) says "0199".....

[Steve Coates]

What is AIR2/8728 Burial Slip Ofw. Gerhard Rohde?

According to Discovery this file is 'BOMBING (Code B, 16): Bombing probability problems: No. 25 Group method'.