GCI/2 losses on 11.05.40

[robert]

Hi,


on 11.05.40 GCI/2 lost in air combat Cne Hyvernaud with MS-406 No.1012. Also damaged were probably 2 others planes: No. 379 and 615. I wonder if somebody had more details of this combat(-s?)?

Regards


Robert

[Peter Cornwell]

Hi Robert,

I don't know what source you are quoting but I have this largely based on Paul Martin's work:

GC I/2 Morane 406 (946). Shot down Oberfw Grimmling of 1./JG53 during attack on enemy bombers near Longwy; crashed between Blénod-les-Toul and Ochey 6.45 a.m. Capt. P. Hyvernaud tried to bale out but killed. Aircraft a write-off.

Nothing on the two damaged machines you mention.

[robert]

Hi Peter,


thanks a lot for your information. My source is Batailles Aeriennes No. 18.


REgards

Robert

[Stephane Muret]

Hello Robert,

According to MS406 ( ed. Avions 1998)
#379 (coded N-797) : GC 1/2 (EM) Lost due to air combat on april 7 1940 (Cpt Vidal KIA)
#615 (coded L-554) : GC 1/2 2eme escadrille, damaged 11 may 1940 (pilot Sgt Chef Givelet),Atelier Réparation Armée de l'Air on may 12 1940.

According to "Invisibles Vainqueurs", Paul Martin (1991), MS406 #379 (Cpt Vidal) crashed NE from Marmoutiers (Saverne) at 15 h 10 PM after meeting Me109
Alaso see "L'escadrille des Cigognes" Cpt William Arthaud 1945.

Hope this could helps.
S. Muret

[robert]

Hi Stephane,


Cne Vidal was victim of Olt.R.Seiler from 1/JG54 but I have MS-406 No.679
The 1/JG53 claimed 3 MS-406 shot down in the morning air combat on 11.05.40. So it is not quite sure who shot Cne.Hyvernaud and who damaged the other Morane.
Stephane I have one question more: the GCI/8 lost some MB152 in combat on 11.05.40. Do you know the time of this losses?(No.537, No.534, ??).

Regards

Robrt

[Stephane Muret]

Robert,

According to the same sources, #679 (GC 1/2, 1ere escadrille) wasn't downed during battle of France. Sure there is an error with codes somewhere but who made the first ?

For GC 1/8 i've found :
may 11 1940 Bloch met Me109 and 110 covered He111 :
Bloch 152 # 369 crashed at St Germain sur Meuse (pilot Lt Flandi KIA)
# 534 crashed at ? (Pilot Adjudant Guy safe)
# 537 crashed at ? (Pilot Cpl/c Spatchek bailed out and was safe)
Badly, no time to give.

I'm going to look for more infos but my knowledge about Bloch 152 is poor.

Good afternoon.
Stéphane