16 SFTS RAF Newton

[Alex Smart]

Hello Col,
From Henk's list , he had 2-9-43 for DL676, Sgt/Cadet(P) Waydowicz.
Odd about the date, W8693 continued in service well after the ground collision

Also to confirm death,
http://listakrzystka.pl/en/?p=309300

Alex

[Alex Smart]

Hello Col,
Can you help ?
In the Krzystka's link I gave there is a reference to "318/N".

RAF (?) – Master – pochowany na cment. w Newark (318/N).

I have looked and found that Harvard II FT318 served with this training unit. I thought that it could have been the a/c that Waydowicz was involved with have been this Harvard ? But the Harvard File has FT318 with the unit from September '44.
So "318/N" is a reference to something else ?
Alex

[Col Bruggy]

Alex,

"318/N", is Sgt Waydowicz's grave number in Newark Cemetery.

Col.

[Alex Smart]

Hello Col,
Thanks for the answer, I missed it completely.
Alex

[Alex Smart]

Hello Col,
As I understood it this was a ground accident so not a "crash" ?
In which case would it have warented an entry into the ORB ?
Or just an entry into an appendix ?
Alex

[Stig Jarlevik]

Alex

Col is correct. W8450 was a night time accident where poor Mroczek (no doubt lost) unluckily hit a tree when trying to force land at Coppice Road, Arnold, Notts.

Gregor

Yes the compiler of 16 SFTS no doubt suffered (as so many others) from fingertrouble and wrote W8540 (which was a black out serial and did not exist) instead of W8450.

B Rgds
Stig

[noggin]

Thank you all very much. 16 June 1944 wasn't 16 SFTS but Oxford ED236 CFS RAF Upavon , crashed at Castle Coombe F/O Jozef Urbanski 2xML killed. Born 1910 Olesnica Lodz Poland , buried Newark Cemetery. Also killed S/Ldr William Jefferies RAF buried Bath Haycombe cemetery; Major Pieter Hayden-Thomas, SAAF buried Bath Haycombe cemetery.

[Col Bruggy]

Originally Posted by noggin

Thank you all very much. 16 June 1944 wasn't 16 SFTS but Oxford ED236 CFS RAF Upavon , crashed at Castle Coombe F/O Jozef Urbanski 2xML killed. Born 1910 Olesnica Lodz Poland , buried Newark Cemetery. Also killed S/Ldr William Jefferies RAF buried Bath Haycombe cemetery; Major Pieter Hayden-Thomas, SAAF buried Bath Haycombe cemetery.

Just a few finer points on the above. Oxford I ED236 was on the charge of the Empire Central Flying School at Hullavington, not the Central Flying School, Upavon. The Oxford hit a wall on a BABS approach to Castle Combe, Wiltshire. S/Ldr William JEFFERIES RAF, should read; 100542 S/L (Flying Instructor) William Peter JEFFERIES RAFVR. The SAAF fatality should read; P102652V Major Pieter Jooste HAYDEN-THOMAS AFC, SAAF.

Col.

[Alex Smart]

Thanks Col,
In my earlier post.
I did list ED236 as ECFS.
Alex

[noggin]

19 July 1944 Oxford PG944 16 SFTS RAF Swinderby to RAF Newton on night flying exercise. While in initial climb, the aircraft went out of control and crashed in a field near Normanton on Trent , killing all 3 crew buried Newark Cemetery.
W/O Bogdan Koper
AC2 Ignacy Tomaszewski Pilot U/T
W/O Stanislaw Mierniczek