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Re: Which P-47 was shot down by German Pilot Ziesmann?
Hello Rolf,
I think Chris and Horst are right. 12 P-47s of G.C.II/3 "Dauphinè" took off at 9.30 to bomb a railway track between Belfort and Altkirch. Suddenly, over the target area, two Bf.109s bounced the aircraft of adjudant-chef Le Guennec. The hydraulic line on the left wing was hit and a trail of black smoke poured from the P-47. Despite this, the French pilot was able to return and land safely at Lyon-Bron airport. Regards. Marco Source: "Pilotes Francais sur l'Alsace et l'Allemagne" |
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Re: Which P-47 was shot down by German Pilot Ziesmann?
First of all, thanks a lot to all who replied to my questions.
Marco, thanks for the explanation and source where you found the info. Sounds very logical to me. Thanks again Rolf |
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Re: Which P-47 was shot down by German Pilot Ziesmann?
First of all, thanks a lot to all who replied to my questions.
Marco, thanks for the explanation and source where you found the info. Sounds very logical to me. Thanks again Rolf |
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Re: Which P-47 was shot down by German Pilot Ziesmann?
Here are the 9th AF P-47 losses with approximate locations, all were thought to be flak related except for Pelletier and Miller, but MACR locations are not always reliable.
44-19862 was Cole (36 FG) lost near Grevenbroich. 42-26462 was Greer (365 FG) crashed west of Eschweiler. 44-200090 was Phillips (366 FG) bailed out south of Nothberg. 44-20084 was Lund (366 FG) lost near Euskirchen. 42-28892 was Schaeffer (366 FG) lost near Grosshau. 42-76484 was Knauss (368 FG) last seen near Heistern. 42-28373 was Goss (405 FG) hit northwest of Saarunion. 42-29198 was Miller (405 FG) lost a wing near St. Avold. 42-27308 was Pelletier (405 FG) lost near Dieuze, shot down by a Me 109. 44-20085 was Sams (405 FG) lost near Bliesbruck. 42-28911 was Woods (406 FG) lost east of Metz. Tuck was killed in a non-operational flight. The 370 FG lost a P-38 near Andernach and the 474 FG lost two P-38's due to FW 190's near Scheidt and Bonn. Kent |
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Re: Which P-47 was shot down by German Pilot Ziesmann?
Just to clarify on Miller (405 FG) and his loss--he was involved in the aerial fight but was killed afterwards while strafing. His plane clipped a tree and lost a wing. That leaves Pelletier as the sole 9th Air Force P-47 loss this day due to enemy aircraft.
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Re: Which P-47 was shot down by German Pilot Ziesmann?
Hi Leo and Horst,
From Marco’s post I understand that the French pilot was hit by a Me 109 but made it back to the base. Now we have a crash site near Boron of a P-47. This is confusing me a bit. Seems odd me that we have 2 different planes or combats but nut sure. Thanks again for your answers and hope we can clarify. Rolf |
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