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Old 26th January 2007, 00:34
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Re: Yak-9P

The so-called Yak-9P that recently arrived in the UK is definitely not a Yak-9P. This was the same aircraft that Richard Goode had tried to sell for a number of years as a Yak-9U. The data plate is not a main data plate, it is a plate from a system or component of an aircraft, of which that are over 100 on the aircraft. The are supple differences on the airframe that are not on a P model. It was exported out of Russia as a "full scale model airplane", not as a Yak-9P. The engine and its cowling are not P.
The aircraft was put together from a number of Yak parts.
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Old 26th January 2007, 10:56
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Re: Yak-9P

I can confirm WB coments after speaking to one of the team who helped 'restore' the aircraft, it does have an original aft fuselage and started out as a bare frame and wing spars. All skins were manufactured at Orenburg in the nineties and the cowling is 'fictional'

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Old 23rd April 2008, 01:48
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Re: Yak-9P

There's a Yak-9P at the Victorious Fatherland Liberation War Museum in Pyongyang. It was, of course, the main fighter type of the North Korean AF at the start of the Korean War in 1950. Here's a u-tube video with brief view of it around 2:50 into the clip; I've seen photo's which show it more clearly but unfortunately can't find them at the moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftFFH4M-nJo

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Old 9th February 2007, 18:02
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Re: Yak-9P

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I would be very interested in any info you have about the 'past life' of any of these museum treasures.
Sadly some of them are not treated as a treasure.
Here are some pictures, I took in Gdynia a few months ago
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Old 10th February 2007, 00:45
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Re: Yak-9P

Gentlemen,
Thank You for your additional responses to this topic.
I had hoped that this might have been an original Yak-9 finally getting a long overdue restoration, but as usual it is more 'revisionist history'

with this few original parts it will probably be impossible to determine what model of Yak-9 this was originally.

I have seen other photos of this same machine (Gdyna) taken by someone else, but your photos are nice , too.

this is another example of a very prized and precious (at least to me) aircraft that has been left to become a derelict at the hands of Mother Nature.
this aircraft deserves to be brought indoors for a full Restoration and then to remain indoors for display.
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Old 1st March 2007, 20:16
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Re: Yak-9P

Hi,
One complete YAK 9P was preserved at Yugoslav Aviation Museum ,waiting to be restored and exposed, its post WWII all metal YAK 9P serialed 2826/26 c/n 04-36.

Also YAK-3 serialed 2252/52 c/n 8545 was in same museum and was exposed within other WW II fighters collection (Spitfire,Hurricane, Me109,Thunderbolt...)
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Old 23rd April 2008, 16:39
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Re: Yak-9P

Looks like 9P for me. Anyway, was not there a twin seater in a museum in Bulgaria? I recall seeing a photo of it together with Il-2.
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Old 23rd April 2008, 17:12
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Re: Yak-9P

This is the single Yak-9 in Bulgaria. And together with it the only left IL-2 in the country. By the way this is an older photo, showing the Yak with a different and not well made canopy:

http://pic.bgspotters.net/?id=3596

And the Il-2
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Old 23rd April 2008, 17:52
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Re: Yak-9P

Oh, it could be the very aircraft, I have seen the photo years ago. Thanks
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Old 24th April 2008, 07:08
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Re: Yak-9P

Thanks again for great photos!
is the Yak-9U/P wing metal or wood?
(the Yak-9U had a wooden wing and the Yak-9P had a metal wing)

it is possible that this plane is made from parts of both a Yak-9U and a Yak-9P.

the aft fuselage of this plane is certainly from a Yak-9P as you can just make out a trapezoid-shaped access panel near the National Marking.
the Yak-9U had a wooden fuselage that did not have this door.
(only the other door closer to the tail-wheel that was common on all Yak's)

the 'worn paint' version is a larger and clearer image of the one I also remember.

I'm also very interested in the Il-2 , do you know if this one is authentic?
some of the contours of the nose do not look right , but the rest looks very authentic.
does this plane have a metal aft fuselage?
I thought I saw a panel line there?
during the war two-seat Shturmoviks had wooden rear fuselages ,but after the war metal replacement tails were fitted to extend service life.
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