Luftwaffe P51 shot down by US P47 ?

[Alex Smart]

Hello,

11/07/1944 - MACR 9696 P-38 serial number 43-28662.

See post number 3 on page one.

Credit for the P-51 was date 29th October 1944 also in a post on page one.

Lost over Hungary on the 29/10/44 was a Bf109G of JG 53, any details of pilot fate or reason for loss ?

RAF and US P51 Mustang Losses for 29/10/44

RAF

430 Sqn Mustang Mk.I - AM191 - Hit by Flak, Venlo - returned Cat E - Pilot RCAF Safe.

USAAF

P-51 MACR's 29/10/44

9586 - Italy - 441029 - P51D-10 - 44-14465 - 332FG/99FS - Davis, Alfonza W.

9587 - Italy - 441029 - P51B - 42-106559 - 31FG/309FS - Dorsch, Frederick J. jr.

9600 - Ger - 441029 -P51C-10 - 43-25108 - 332FG/100FS - Brewer, Fred L. jr.

10255 - Ger - 441029 - P51D-5 - 44-13561 - 354FG/356FS - Voes, Richard J.

10256 - Ger - 441029 - P51B-10 - 42-106701 - 354FG/353FS - Bowers, John R.

10257 - Ger - 441029 - P51C-10 - 42-103313 - 354FG/355FS - Meyler, Walter P.

10275 - FRA - 441029 - F-6B - 43-6360 - RG(P)/162TRS - Posey, George A.jr.

P-51 Accidents 29/10/44

India - P-51C-11 - 43-25239 - 51FS/Hq - GL - Mohanbari/Sta 9 - Hearn, Joseph E.

Italy - P-51C-10 - 43-24911 - 332FG/302FS - CRT - Ramitelli - Brooks, Milton R.

Italy - P-51C - 42-103957 - 332FG/99FS - LAC - San Severo - Saunders, Pearlee E.

Italy - P-51D - 44-13469 - 52FG/5FS - TOA - Madna - Mabe, Robert E.

Eng - P-51D-10 - 441029 - 361GF/376FS - CBLEF - Newborough - Volkman, Robert R.

Eng - P-51D-5 - 441029 - 361FG/165FS - FLEF - RAF Straubby - Powell, Homer G.

Alex

[Kurtl12]

Alex, thanks for your quick response.
I've just read MACR 9587 about Capt. Frederick DORSCH, KIA. The attached KSU report leads to Austria in the area south of Linz, NOT Italy. So according to the position where he got lost for me that's a hot candidate for 2Lt. Coulson's victory on October 29th, 1944. Do you agree?

Cheers, Kurtl

[ssg keay]

Seemingly Coulson and another pilot, Brewer, were shot down by Russian Yaks over what is nowadays Kosovo. Danny

[ssg keay]

Correction, they were shot down more likely over Serbia, just north of Krusevac.
It would be very interesting to see which Russian units were stationed there and might have claimed the shoot down of two fighters that day.

Danny

[ssg keay]

There is also the possibility that the US fighters were completely disorientated, as there is a recorded loss of two American aircraft in November 1944 at Nis, Serbia. This is about 60 miles I think from where the Americans thought they were. Danny