German docs in TSAMO

[Maxim1]

Akte 120. Lage und Bedürfnisse der rumänischen Luftwaffe. Luftabwehr Rumäniens (1941 - 1944).

http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/d...de/grid/zoom/1

Verluste in Flugzeugen und Piloten von 22.6.1941 - 1.8.1944 (page 4):

625 in total, of which 221 fighters, 85 bombers, 87 surveillance planes, 19 seaplanes, 201 liaison planes, 12 transport planes

352 airmen killed

[Paul Thompson]

Originally Posted by Maxim1

Akte 120. Lage und Bedürfnisse der rumänischen Luftwaffe. Luftabwehr Rumäniens (1941 - 1944).

http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/d...de/grid/zoom/1

Verluste in Flugzeugen und Piloten von 22.6.1941 - 1.8.1944 (page 4):

625 in total, of which 221 fighters, 85 bombers, 87 surveillance planes, 19 seaplanes, 201 liaison planes, 12 transport planes

352 airmen killed

English translation of the file description follows below:

Situation and requirements of the Romanian Air Force. Air defence of Romania (22 June 1941 - 1 August 1944). The file contains the following documents:
2 diagrams "The Romanian Air Force against the Anglo-American air raids. Losses of aircraft and personnel." (Sheets.1-2);
Diagram "Romanian Air Force: Establishment, current inventory, deficit compared to establishment, losses of aircraft and pilots from 22 June 1941 to 1 August 1944" (Sheet.3);
Map "Air defences of Romania - fighters" (Sheet.4);
Map "Air defences of Romania - anti-aircraft artillery" (State - 1 August 1944)" (Sheet.5).

Thanks are due to Dénes Bernád for drawing my attention to the importance of the summary information on Romanian strength and losses contained in Sheet 3.

If we can assemble a set of English translations for the other relevant documents, this will be a very good thread

Regards,

Paul

[Larry deZeng]

Hi Paul -

I have just completed a second run through all 3 of these record groups - OKW, OKH and H.Gr. Mitte - and found Luftwaffe material of value and interest in just 5 folders:

Record Group 12454
Akte 334, Akte 375, Akte 385, Akte 405 and Akte 409.

The 5 Akten are specifically marked "Luftwaffe". This should save resarchers some time.

So far, this collection is pretty much of a disappointment, but that's not a surprise once I scanned through it a couple of times and saw what the files were: nearly all Heeresgruppe Mitte Ia, Ic and Ic/AO Morgen-, Zwischen-, Tages- und Abendberichten. Many have a small 2 or 3 sentence summary of Lw.-Kdo. Ost (later Luftflotte 6) operations for the day, but these are shorn of all details - units are not identified and specific locations are usually not given. These thousands and thousands of pages are German Army ground-pounder reports and only occasionally mention the Luftwaffe in passing. What little of interest there is on the Luftwaffe is confined to the 5 Koluft files listed above.

You have mentioned the need for English translations several times and I am not sure why. Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that most researchers interested in German documents would already have a working knowledge of written German? In those few cases where this might not be true, the researcher can certainly cut and paste the file's descriptive title into Google Translate and get a reasonable translation into their own language. Many researchers who have no German may be French, Finnish, Greek, Turkish, etc., and have little English either. Are my assumptions on this wrong?

L.

[Paul Thompson]

Originally Posted by Larry deZeng

Hi Paul -

I have just completed a second run through all 3 of these record groups - OKW, OKH and H.Gr. Mitte - and found Luftwaffe material of value and interest in just 5 folders:

Record Group 12454
Akte 334, Akte 375, Akte 385, Akte 405 and Akte 409.

The 5 Akten are specifically marked "Luftwaffe". This should save resarchers some time.

Hello Larry,

Thank you very much for your sterling work, as always!

Your assumption that many researchers will not have a need for an English translation is correct. In fact, that group counts me among its members Nevertheless, I think it would be good to do the translations and post them here, as an aide-mémoire. For my own part, there is some material there which is not of direct relevance to my current research, but I might want to come back to it in the future. As it is now clear that there are very few translations to do, I shall do them and post them here myself.

Regards,

Paul

[Larry deZeng]

Hi Paul,

I guess we should all keep the faith as the 3 collections up on the website (OKW, OKH, H.Gr. Mitte) are but a small fraction of the total - maybe 75,000 pages out of the 2,500,000 pages the TsAMO project claims to have. That's just 3%. That leaves a lot of room for the eventual appearance of additional Luftwaffe folders and files between now and the target completion date in 2018. Who knows? There may be some really good material just around the corner.

L.

[ju55dk]

OKH akte 555 is not new. It has been known, in Denmark since 1945. But interesting anyway.

Junker

[Paul Thompson]

Here is the second, and thus far final, set of translated annotations. Note that it starts with a new document, Akte 118, which covers Romanian Air Force losses and has not been mentioned so far in this thread. Do not confuse it with Akte 120, which is an Air Force-specific document.


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Reference: Bestand 500 Findbuch 12450 - OKW Akte 118
Annotation: Reports on the losses of weapons and materiel by the Romanian Armed Forces and about the method by which they were replaced in 1941 - 1944. The following documents are available in the file: 1) Chart of the losses of the Romanian Air Force and their replacement (Sheet.1); 2) Chart of the losses of the Romanian Navy and their replacement (Sheet.2); 3) Chart of the losses of the Romanian merchant marine and their replacement (Sheet.3); 4) Chart of the losses of the Romanian riverine vessels and their replacement (Sheet.4); 5) notes in German and Russian (Sheet.5-5a); 6) Chart of weapons and materiel deliveries to the Romanian army (Sheet.5a-7). (1)
Start Date: 01/06/1941
End Date: 25/02/1944

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Reference: Bestand 500 Findbuch 12450 - OKW Akte 120
Annotation: Situation and requirements of the Romanian Air Force. Air defence of Romania (22 June 1941 - 1 August 1944). The file contains the following documents: 2 diagrams "The Romanian Air Force against the Anglo-American air raids. Losses of aircraft and personnel." (Sheets.1-2); Diagram "Romanian Air Force: Establishment, current inventory, deficit compared to establishment, losses of aircraft and pilots from 22 June 1941 to 1 August 1944" (Sheet.3); Map "Air defences of Romania - fighters" (Sheet.4); Map "Air defences of Romania - anti-aircraft artillery" (State - 1 August 1944)" (Sheet.5).
Start Date: 17/10/1943
End Date: 01/08/1944

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Reference: Bestand 500 Findbuch 12451 - OKH Akte 36
Annotation: A detailed analysis of the Army-Air Force cooperation on the basis of experience in the Polish campaign.
Start Date: 25/11/1939
End Date: 25/11/1939

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Reference: Bestand 500 Findbuch 12451 - OKH Akte 45
Annotation: After-action summaries, instructions and guidelines of the OKH for the Air Force, the flak artillery and reconnaissance squadrons on the subject of cooperation with the army. Guidelines for the organization and deployment of aerial reconnaissance units with a Panzer Corps. Figures and drawings.
Start Date: 16/10/1939
End Date: 25/10/1940

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Reference: Bestand 500 Findbuch 12451 - OKH Akte 440
Annotation: Records of the Chief of Operations of Army Group Center: reports of air attacks on own troops, subordination of flying schools, formation of fighter units, infantry divisions, among others Bomer units, new units formed, personnel changes. Specific rules for medical officers. Deployment for trench digging on the eastern border.
Start Date: 24/06/1939
End Date: 06/10/1939

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Reference: Bestand 500 Findbuch 12451 - OKH Akte 555
Annotation: Commander of the German forces in Denmark, Chief of Intelligence / Historical review of military activity: The reasons for the introduction of the state of emergency in Denmark and its implementation on 29 August 1943, preparatory measures, implementation, the disarmament of the Danish armed forces. operations thereafter, annexes, drawings.
Start Date: 09/04/1940
End Date: 06/10/1943

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Reference: Bestand 500 Findbuch 12451 - OKH Akte 837
Annotation: Districts designated for aerial photographic missions (Bialystok-Grodno-Belsk-Lomzha-Ostrolenka).
Start Date: 11/04/1941
End Date: 07/06/1941


Regards,


Paul

[muggs_ro]

Hi guys, any idea on how could one check for updates ? I can't see any changelog / news

[Larry deZeng]

Hi muggs -

There does not seem to be a "Updates" or "News" page associated with this website, so I go there once every 2 to 4 weeks and click the various tabs to see if anything has been added. The last time I was there was just a few days ago and I found no evidence of any additions.

Could Putin's change in attitude toward the West during 2014-15 have resulted in a slowdown for this project? Perhaps TSAMO has been forced to lay people off who were working on this due to the bad state of the Russian economy?

L.

[muggs_ro]

Thanks for your reply Larry, the end of the project is scheduled for 2018...but indeed I have some doubts myself that this project will be finalized..