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Old 29th January 2007, 14:24
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Re: Luftwaffe reports on downed Lavochkins

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About colour marking of spinnercowl - AFAIK, there are following colours in Polk (equal german Gruppe) - as it was in 9 GvIAP:
1 Eskadrilya (Staffel) - red
2 Eskadrilya (Staffel) - blue
3 Eskadrilya (Staffel) - Yellow
You should note that there was no particular order of colours and this varied between units.
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You are NOT right. I can proove it, if You want.
According veterans memories, it was not serious problem to control manually all sistems in dogfight for them even when they were very young and unexpirienced pilots because it was so well trained IN EVERY pilot school, that in dogfight could swich all controls "automatically", without loosing concentration.
But you just prove my point! It is evident from your post that the performance are strictly dependant on pilot's abilities.
Otherwise, according to the veterans they often preliminary set everything before entering the combat just to avoid distraction. As I understand, average flight time of a Soviet pilot was in the area of 200-300 hrs before entering the combat. I am wondering, that if Westerners trained pilots for about 600 hrs, and then still introduced automatic devices, does it not mean they were worth of it?
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MAY be You are thinking that La-5 & La-7 was a "bad" fighter... But german pilots, who was shot down by La's, disagree with You
Following this logic, you will find a number of pilots convinced of I-15's superiority.
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And dont forget that top scored Allied ace was pilot of La-5, La-5FN and La-7 - I.N.Kogedub.
And Rechkalov had 60+3 flying Airacobras. What is the conclusion? I do not mention the fact, that those victories cannot be compared to the ones of eg. Gabreski and Johnson due to different verification system.
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In russian forum there was a thread about THIS La-5F... It was very long serviced aircraft, with 2 !!! belly landings... And damaged engine...
Actually I have seen various hypothesis but not the proof the aircraft was worn out or damaged. Most of the Russian researchers are confused with the case and one of the versions I have heard is that possibly Lerche did not adjust all the systems properly. An argument supporting the thesis was the fact, Soviet test pilots did similar mistakes.

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When the report had been filed? I believe all the Allied reports post-1943 underline the fact of decreasing quality of the German production. Nonetheless it must be noted aerodynamics is just only one factor.
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Re: Luftwaffe reports on downed Lavochkins

2 Jens: are You talking about captured La-5F, wich was tested by Germans?

In russian forum there was a thread about THIS La-5F... It was very long serviced aircraft, with 2 !!! belly landings... And damaged engine...
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