German night fighter top aces by plane

[Nick Hector]

Originally Posted by knusel

Good morning Peter,

never mind him. I use to skip his "posts".

If memory doesn't play tricks on me I read somewhere that Wittgenstein flew but one single mission in a Bf110. I'll try to relocate that source.

Have a nice weekend,

Michael

Looking to have another thread closed down, knusel? That usually happens after Peter "intervenes".....
Objections to your validity are perfectly legitimate and are typically upheld by the moderators. It is also a fact that you only ever ask questions without contributing much else of real substance to the forum....

[Col Bruggy]

Originally Posted by knusel

Good morning Peter,

never mind him. I use to skip his "posts".

If memory doesn't play tricks on me I read somewhere that Wittgenstein flew but one single mission in a Bf110. I'll try to relocate that source.

Have a nice weekend,

Michael

Michael,

Could the following be the source of your observation?

"Heinrich (zu Sayn-Wittgenstein), was stationed at Gilze-Rijen where the order came to convert to the Bf 110. Apparently, the Prinz and Herbert flew in the Bf 110 for one brief flight only, but that night, in late May, the aircraft suffered a technical problem and was deemed unserviceable. Not ones for remaining idle, they took off in their usual Ju 88 C and shot down four Lancasters*! Prinz Heinrich never flew another Bf 110 again, preferring to fly his Ju 88. He was able to achieve this by employing his status and seniority, thereby circumventing usual restrictions."

See:
Princes of Darkness The Lives of Luftwaffe night fighter aces Heinrich Prinz zu Sayn-Wittgenstein and Egmont Prinz zur Lippe-Weissenfeld.
Knott,Claire Rose
Hersham:Classic,2008
pp.74-6

* Claims for four Lancasters doubtful. Date possibly 25 June, 1943 - 4 claims, only one was a Lancaster (Luftwaffe Aces 4/Mathews & Foreman/pp.1092-3).

Col.

[Nick Beale]

I go on holiday for a week and another fight starts … so here is something useful on Wikipedia which all concerned might like to read:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_method

[PMoz99]

Nick Beale, selectively deleting posts is not the answer.

[knusel]

Dear Col Bruggy,

thanks. Yes, I think that was the story but I read an except only and do not own the book.
Can you tell me the date of that Bf110 mission ?

Have a nice weekend,

Michael

[Col Bruggy]

Originally Posted by knusel

Dear Col Bruggy,

thanks. Yes, I think that was the story but I read an except only and do not own the book.
Can you tell me the date of that Bf110 mission ?

Have a nice weekend,

Michael

Michael,

The author (Knott), does not make it clear which day in May (1943), she is referring too. She simply states, "Late May".

Col.

[knusel]

Good morning Col Bruggy,

thanks for checking.
The only May1943 kill of Wittgenstein that I know of is the DB-3 on 2May.
OSPREY wanted to publish an Aircraft of the Aces volume about the Ju88 but I think there has been a delay.

Michael

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by PMoz99

Nick Beale, selectively deleting posts is not the answer.

Merely an expedient (trying to keep acrimony to a minimum on the public forum) but if you can suggest a course of action that is fair and doesn't involve the moderators taking sides with any of the parties to this dispute then of course we'll consider it.