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Old 23rd January 2013, 11:17
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Re: Hptm. Helmut Bergmann

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Chris, I don't discount the strong possibility that John Surman shot Bergmann down, just that on doing more research I was to find that there was another strong possibility that needed to be marked.
John Surman would not have known exactly who he had shot down, despite Paul Carell (not very reliable) claiming that no Luftwaffe Bf110 aircraft, arrived, we know that at least two did and that both were lost. I feel sure that John Surman shot down one of them.
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Re: Hptm. Helmut Bergmann

Late to the party - someone mentioned WNr. 740078 in this thread -

Bf 110G-4, 740078, Rohrbach, Ltn. Erich, , III., 7., NJG 5, , C9+GR, , , 02-Dec-43, KIA due to Luftkampf. Bf & Bs FSA, OK., 2/3-Dec, 'G9+GR' per Balss., Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12)-Vol.24; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, p.170; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.270; Höhler, Deutsche Nachtjagd Personalverluste, p.121, , Zepernick nördlich Berlin, 100%, F, Bs Ogefr. Ernst Hoch, , Gothaer Waggonfabrik AG at Gotha in Oct-43
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