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Old 14th April 2017, 12:00
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Re: Saburo Sakai

Hello Michel,

this website indicates that Nishizawa scored 34+158 shared kills:
http://www.aces.safarikovi.org/victories/japan-ww2.html
Will it ever be possible to find out the decimals od the shared kills ?

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Old 14th April 2017, 16:59
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14/3/42=6 P-40 collective (by four pilots)
14/3/42=2 P-40 prob.collective(by four pilots)
28/3/42=3 spits collective(by five pilots)

Extracts from Tainan Kokutai Kodochosho

12/5/42=2 P-39 collective(by five pilots)
12/5/42=1 P-39 prob.collective(by five pilots)
13/5/42=2 P-39 collective(by five pilots)
13/5/42=1 B-26 prob.collective(by six pilots)
17/5/42=5 P-39 collective(by six pilots)
17/5/42=1 P-39 prob.collective(by six pilots)
09/6/42=4 B-26 collective(by 23 pilots)
25/6/42=1 P-39 collective(by three pilots)
25/7/42=1 B-17 collective(by nine pilots)
5/10/42=1 B-25 collective(by seven pilots)
8/10/42=2 dauntless collective(by 8 pilots)
13/10/42=1 wildcat collective(by two pilots)
13/10/42=1 wildcat prob.collective(by two pilots)
17/10/42=1 dauntless collective(by two pilots)

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Regarding the issue of the logbook, on page 141 of Henry Sakaida's Winged Samurai a picture is included that is captioned as follows:
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This is Sakai's navigation tool bag which he carried on his near-fatal mission to Guadalcanal. Also shown is his flight logbook. Most Japanese pilots burned their logbooks at the end of the war in the mistaken belief that the U.S. Occupation Forces would execute them. They destroyed anything which would incriminate them.
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Re: Saburo Sakai

Have you already heard that a new OSPREY volume about the Zero aces will be published next year.
I anticipate it'll include statements about the scores of Sakai, Nishizawa & Co.

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Where did you get that info from Michael? I keep an eye on Osprey 's pre-order list which goes 3 months in advance, and it doesn't show up there.
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It is on the Osprey "Big Reveal" blog page for the "Aircraft of the Aces" series. https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/Big_Reveal_2017_ACE/

Two volumes, the first at least to appear in 2018, but no month announced. To cover the period of China through the Solomons, for the A6M-2 and the Rufe float fighter.

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It is on the Osprey "Big Reveal" blog page for the "Aircraft of the Aces" series. https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/Big_Reveal_2017_ACE/

Two volumes, the first at least to appear in 2018, but no month announced. To cover the period of China through the Solomons, for the A6M-2 and the Rufe float fighter.

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According to Amazon, August 2018 is the release date. (subject to change of course)
https://www.amazon.ca/Zero-sen-Aces-...s=zero+millman
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The USN reported a total of 907 aircraft lost to enemy aircraft in WWII, the vast majority, 897, in the Pacific. Other losses noted, Pacific theaters only, were 1,948 to AAA fire and 1,336 operational. (Naval Aviation Combat Statistics – WWII)

The USAAF reported a total of 1,444 aircraft lost to enemy aircraft in WWII in the Pacific theaters, including China Burma India and Alaska. Other losses noted were 942 to AAA fire and 1,650 to “other” causes. (USAAF Statistical Digest)
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Re: Saburo Sakai

Good evening Leonard,

thanks for the interesting figures which imply that the Japanese scores should be lower than the US scores in that theater (although the Japanese scores did also include USMC and Commonwealth aircraft).

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Sorry . . . revised to include the USMC in above totals . . . Pacific Theaters of operations:
Lost to enemy A/C = 1,222
Lost to enemy AAA = 2,180
Lost Operationally = 1,535
Lost Other Flights (not combat related) = 3,619
Lost on ground or aboard ship = 1,419

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