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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
1000+ posts well now, who would have thought that?
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Well done Michiel ! This thread obviously hits a soft spot among the TOCH community
![]() Thanks to all contributors Msrc |
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#994 You are absolutely correct Nick. According to the 2-part history of TGr30 by C.Archambault & J-L.Roba in 'Avions 131 & 132', TGr30 was formed from KGrzbV23 in May 1943 with Stab and four staffeln, but when it moved from the MTO (Practica Di Mare to Kaufbeuren in Allgau) at end of 1943 , the 4/TGr30 was dissolved and absorbed by the other three staffeln.The 'Aero Journal Hors-Serie 48' is devoted to the He111 and authored by C-J.Ehrengardt and on page 112 is a colour profile of 5J+HK (701412) as operated by 3/TGr30 at Zellhausen at end of 1944, so perhaps Pegg's (700328) could actually be 5J+IP of 6/KG4. The 5J or S3 is not distinct whereas the IP is clearly marked
Just a possible explanation? Regards Peter |
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Hello everyone,
I reread all of the threads regarding He 111 H-20, marked 5J+IL, and found abandoned at Schweinfurt. However, I am still uncertain what the consensus is regarding its Werknummer. In my files, I have twelve photos of this aircraft, several of which clearly show that it is Werknummer 700628. Respectfully, Steve Sheflin |
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#1005 Thanks Steve for this info, so do your copies clearly show 5J+IL or 3S+IL?.
Regards Peter |
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Thanks Rudi, |
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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
And I will add my thanks to Rudi. One picture is worth a thousand words. It can help fill in missing pieces as research continues.
Nest, Ed |
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Here is one more: Bf 109: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...19.m1438.l2649
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Regards, Rudi |
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Well RudiS, Your vigil is highly rewarding : your latest find shows in the background a Bf 109 G-6/AS, G-14/AS or G-10, from the Stab of an unknown II. Gruppe. In the foreground, you might have a Bf 109 K-4 from an early production batch, in the W.Nr. 330xxx - 331xxx. Still unsure though. As for the location, might this be Bad Lippspringe ? Cheers Marc |
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Here is one more:
Bf 109: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...19.m1438.l2649[/quote] Looks like we have an early citizen of Tulsa who wanted to put that place on the map. I only thought Gene Pitney knew where it was....at least back in the 1960s... ![]() Cheers Stig |
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