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Old 2nd July 2008, 21:20
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Johannes Seifert

Greetings: As I didn't draw any bites on my "Mueller" inquiry, I thought I'd try another kind of obscure question relating to Bf110 pilots. Johannes Seifert,KIA with II/JG26 on 25.11.43(57 Vic.) was apparently a Zerstorer pilot during the Polish campaign, before tranferring to S/E fighters with JG26. Eimannsbergers book on I(laterV)/LG1 has crew lists for the campaign, but he is not listed there( but, then again, neither are Laufs and Hermann, who are reported to have flown in I/LG1). Of the 3 Zerstorergruppen involved, Does anyone know which unit he may have flown with? Any comments appreciated. Cheers Dean
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Old 2nd July 2008, 21:47
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Re: Johannes Seifert

Hi,

Peter Laufs even reported one victory on the 01.09.39 and was with 2(Z)/LG1 as well as Kurt Hermann.
Please tell us from what source you took information that Seifert took part on PC?

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Old 3rd July 2008, 02:16
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Re: Johannes Seifert

Hi Robert, nice to hear from you. The site I got this from is www.luftwaffe.cz/seifert.html. I've always been curious as well about Hermannn and Laufs, who are both credited with Victories with I/LG1 in the Polish campaign, and then, if my Intel. is correct, went to Z/KG30, and subsequently to intruder Ops. with NJG2. Again, any help on any of these names most welcome. Thanks Dean.
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Old 3rd July 2008, 07:09
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Re: Johannes Seifert

Hi guys!

The info we have is ambiguous on this point. Here is all we have on this guy:

SEIFERT, Johannes.
(Date of Birth: 06.10.15 in Pinneberg/Holstein).
Nickname: “Hannes”.
24.11.37 Lt. at FFS C Celle (later FFS C 7).
09.39 with a Zerstörer unit. –this is from the website www.luftwaffe.cz
01.03.40 Hptm., appt Staka 3./JG 26 (to 10.07.41).
11.07.41 Maj., appt Kdr. I./JG 26 (to 31.05.43).
01.01.42 Kdr. I./JG 26 (to at least 31.12.42).
25.02.42 Hptm., awarded DKG, I./JG 26.
07.06.42 Hptm., awarded Ritterkreuz, Kdr. I./JG 26. 06.43 trf to the Führerreserve (to 09.43).
01.06.43 Major, appt to a position on the staff of the German mission to Bulgaria.
09.09.43 Obstlt., appt Kdr. II./JG 26 (to 25.11.43).
25.11.43 KIA – collided with a P-38 Lightning that he had just shot down near Bethune.
(n.d.) posthumously promo to Obstlt.
Credited with 439 combat missions and 57 air victories.

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Old 3rd July 2008, 09:18
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Re: Johannes Seifert

Well I will say that only possibility would be I/ZG1 (if Bf110 unit) and II/ZG1 (if Bf109 unit).

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Old 3rd July 2008, 18:02
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Re: Johannes Seifert

Doug: Thanks for your input. At least this gives me his start date with JG26. Robert, you have a point about II/ZG1 ( Jgr101).I was thinking purely Bf110. Of course, several "zerstorer" units were still flying Bf109's at that time. Cheers. Dean.
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Old 3rd July 2008, 18:29
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Re: Johannes Seifert

Hi,

I just mentioned two Luftwaffe fighter units (ZG) with personnel rosters far to be completed - It`s only my guess.

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Old 4th July 2008, 21:48
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Re: Johannes Seifert

I believe that the info on Seifert's Zerstörer connection probably originated from Obermeier's Die Ritterkreuzträger der Luftwaffe in which is stated that Seifert took part in the Polish Campaign as a Zerstörer pilot (...nahm als Zerstörerflieger am Polenfeldzug teil...) unfortunately without further elaboration.

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Re: Johannes Seifert

A bit necropost, but a little more info:

Johannes Seifert (Jagdflieger) is not the same pilot as Kurt Seifert (Zerstorerflieger).

Kurt Seifert was a pilot and Oblt. in 4./ZG26 in early 1942, and when 4./ZG26 became 4./ZG2 he was appt. its StaKa.
Around may 1942, he went to StaKa 2./ZG1 only to be shot down on 03.06.42 o Eastern Front.

If Kurt Seifert is meant to have combat action during PC, so he must be with I./ZG2 (and later went to ZG26 in autumn 1940 with ZG2's disbandment).
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Re: Johannes Seifert

Here a pic of Jahannes Seifert

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