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5th April 2009, 13:12
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Oblt Lorenz
Does anyone have a mention of an Oblt Lorenz being lost with KGr 606/I/KG 77 some time in 1942?
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5th April 2009, 15:22
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Re: Oblt Lorenz
All I could find was a mention in 'K' 367/1942 ( 3Z+BL shot down 9-11-42) which identifies a Hpt. Lorenz as a St/kap of 1/KG77.
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5th April 2009, 16:08
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Re: Oblt Lorenz
That would be him-I wonder if it was Hptm Herbert Lorenz?
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5th April 2009, 21:34
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Re: Oblt Lorenz
We have a ton of Lorenz's.
As for Herbert Lorenz we have: LORENZ, Herbert. (DOB: 17.05.06). 01.04.42 promo to Maj. LORENZ, Herbert. 01.03.42 promo to Hptm.(Tr.O.). 27.04.42 Hptm., awarded Ehrenpokal. 16/17.06.44 Hptm. in 1./NJG 2, KIA – shot down or crashed into the sea east of Cancale on the north coast of Brittany. Neither seems to be your man. A search of the Lorenz's reveals none apparently associated with KGr. 606 or KG 77. LdZ DGS
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6th April 2009, 21:10
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Re: Oblt Lorenz
Thanks Gentlemen. I have 2 more Lorenz-Helmut promoted to Hptm 1 Apr 42 & & Gerhard promoted to Hptm 1 Feb 42?
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6th April 2009, 21:50
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Re: Oblt Lorenz
We have one Gerhard Lorenz:
LORENZ, Gerhard. (DOB: 1906). 16.07.40 POW??? 01.02.42 promo to Hptm. 1942 in 5./KG 27. 01.11.42 appt Kdr. Störkampfgruppe Luftwaffenkommando Don (to 13.03.43). Maybe this is two guys? LdZ DGS
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#7
6th April 2009, 23:06
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Re: Oblt Lorenz
The first one was taken POW with III/KG 26 so maybe 2 guys but what about Helmut?
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#8
29th December 2020, 12:06
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Re: Oblt Lorenz
After nearly 12 years, this guy is still vexing me but thanks to Matti I might be closer. Herbert Lorenz who was killed with 1./NJG 2 was with 3./806 in April 1940 probably at the time they were converting to Ju 88s. He then reappears in April 1942 as a Hptm when he gets the EP. So we have the Ju 88 & Küstenfliegergruppe connection and that he was still operational in April 1942 but not with III./KG 54 (which 806 would become)
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#9
29th December 2020, 14:44
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Re: Oblt Lorenz
Hello,
10 years ago I wrote an article in the French magazine "AVIONS", which related the rescue, on 8th of November 1940, of the crew of a KG 26 He111, whose the observer was Oblt. zur Zee Helmut LORENZ. I attached to this message the copy of the page of the article in which I briefly related the military career of this officer. May be is he your man ? Pierre Babin
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29th December 2020, 15:39
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Re: Oblt Lorenz
Different man-this Lorenz was a torpedo man who then joined the Luftwaffe and KG 26
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