Personnel Losses for Zerstörergruppen on Reichs Defense

[Don Caldwell]

There are some holes in my loss data for the ZGs on Reichs Defense. All that are lacking are personnel losses (KIA, MIA, WIA) for the following:

II./ZG 1: 3 Apr 44, 30 Jun 1944
Stab/ZG 26: 30 Jan 44
I./ZG 26: 4 Jan 44, 30 Jan 44, 25 May 1944
II./ZG 26: 4 Jan 44
Stab/ZG 76: 30 Jun 1944
I./ZG 76: 30 Jan 44, 14 Jun 1944, 27 Jun 1944, 30 Jun 1944
II./ZG 76: 23 Apr 44, 14 Jun 1944, 27 Jun 1944, 30 Jun 1944
II./ZG 101: 24 Feb 44

Sorry that this list is so long. I've got data on the material losses, and, in most cases, details on the missions. All I need now are the number of personnel lost for each unit & date. Names, etc. may have to wait for later.

Any help appreciated.


Horrido!

Don

[Peter Kassak]

HI Don

ZG 76 info on the way to you via email...

[Don Caldwell]

Hi Peter --

Thanks for filling the ZG 76 hole so nicely. I apologize to the rest of the members for posting such a greedy request -- I knew better, but time is pressing in. But now, my only ZG loss problems are a few dates for ZG 1, ZG 26, and ZG 101. Anyone?

Horrido!

Don

[Peter Kassak]

You are welcome Don,

checking my bits and pieces on other ZG units
II./ZG 1:
3 Apr 44,
no personal losses
[2.4.1944 however 6 KIA 2 WIA...is your date OK?]
Uffz. Otto Schiller 4 P K Bf 110 G-2WNr.150128 (2N+PM)
Uffz. Karl Labecki 4 Bf K


Ofw. Alois Sonntag 5 P K Bf 110 G-2 WNr 150124 (2N+DN) 100% . Uffz. Erwin Kunze 5 Bf W

Fhr. Fritz Walter 6 P M Bf 110 G-2 WNr.6292(2N+BP) 100%
Uffz. Christian Rodaro 6 Bf M


Uffz. Peter Schölz 6 P K Bf 110 G-2 WNr.5224 (2N+GP) 100%
Uffz. Rudolf Ullwer 6 Bf K


30 Jun 1944
No personal losses

As for the ZG 101 on 24.2.1944 I found nothing..losses were recorded on 23. and 25.2.1944


regards

[Don Caldwell]

Hi Peter --

Thanks for the continued help. My II./ZG 1 coverage is good, thanks to John Vasco's work. The 3 Apr 44 loss was operational, non-combat. Apparently there were no casualties.

Don

[Adriano Baumgartner]

PETER and Don,
I know this is mostly a thread of yours, but Peter, could you put the ZG 76 losses for the overall member? I mean, a lot of us do have more interest on one or another thread here and I guess a lot of students ( like myself ) of Military History would enhance their knowledge...this would help us to check some USAAF claims, etc...I do not know if you can or can not put those losses ( ZG 76 ) down here...if they are huge in size, etc...but it would be most welcomed if you could.
Please excuse me if I am being to direct or disrespecting you - this is not my intention.
All the best on your private researches and please keep writing!
Yours
Adriano Baumgartner

[Peter Kassak]

Adriano,
sorry, here are the summaries...I know that I should post it directly...apologize.

Stab/ZG 76:
30 Jun 1944: NO losses recorded, material nor personal...just I. Gruppe had some and was involved in combat.

I./ZG 76:
30 Jan 1944: NO personal losses, one Bf 110 destroyed, both men survived. Names not known...
14 Jun 1944: 2 KIA, 4 WIA
27 Jun 1944: 2 KIA, 3 WIA
30 Jun 1944: 1 KIA, 1 WIA


II./ZG 76:
23 Apr 1944: 4 KIA, 1 WIA, 1 FSA
14 Jun1 1944, 1 KIA
27 Jun 1944: 2KIA
30 Jun 1944: 1KIA, 1 WIA

As most of the TOCH members could notice, I am working on history of ZG 76 (1943-45), so there fore no details, if I may keep it wait for book But USAAF claims are possibly matched in the text, some cases for 100%

regards

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Thanks Peter!
May I ask you IF there is already available on the marked a First Volume covering the creation - til 1943 of ZG76? Your work sounds very interesting...would it be in English? PLEASE do advise me when it will be available. I do have a tremendous interest on this Zerstorergruppe and some of his earlier pilots as well.
Many thanks for the additional information by the way...we all learn a bit more!
Yours ( and keep us advised please! )
Adriano Baumgartner

[Peter Kassak]

Hi Adriano and all others,

No there is not First volume ready yet.
However there exists unofficial Zerstorer Research Workgroup.
There are two guys who works on ZG 1 history...Early years, Russia, and RVT.
We know one man that is interested and works on ZG 26 detailed history.
Two other researchers are working on I. ZG 76 and II./ZG 76 histories separately. The later mentioned will be the first one out, AFAIK.
And me, working on ZG 76 1943-45.
So a lot of data possibly concentrated. But all of it needs more or even "more-er" time and effort.
I am planning mine to be published hopefully in 2012, if all goes OK. We will see...it got complicated when WASt stopped the replies
But we manage somehow I believe.

regards