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Old 18th June 2013, 00:03
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Karl-Heinz Becker claims vs mosquito losses

hi,
im searching the possible victims of Karl-Heinz Becker of 10.-NJG11,
if anyone can help....

15.2.45 10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker F-5E Lightning United States 1st/8 1-15km SW of Hettstedt (PQ KC 6) @ 6200m Possibly 44-2471 of 13th PRS. Pilot POW
21.3.45 10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito XVI British 2nd/8 10Km SW Berlin PF392/P3-R of 692 sqn. W/O I M McPhee and Sgt. A V Sullivan both KIA
24/25.3.45 10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 3th/8 3Km S Fehrbellin
24/25.3.45 10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 4th/8 3Km S Fehrbellin
27/28.3.45 10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 5th/8 10Km W Nauen
27/28.3.45 10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 6th/8 10Km W Nauen
30.3.45 10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 7th/8 Crashed in Holland 418 sqn RCAF, 2 Group. F L Graham
31.3.45 10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 8th/8 Tegel (Berlin)

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Old 18th June 2013, 00:44
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Re: Karl-Heinz Becker claims vs mosquito losses

My notes show that 418 Squadron lost Mosquito PZ394 on 1 April 1945, missing from patrol near Osnabruck. F/L G.K. Graham killed, can't find any information on second crew member. I can't see any losses reported on 30 March 1945, but this was probably a night flight on 30 March / 1 April.
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Re: Karl-Heinz Becker claims vs mosquito losses

The following sources indicates that F/L Graham's navigator was F/O Styles, who was also KIA:

http://www.manitobamilitaryaviationm...18squadron.pdf

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Old 18th June 2013, 13:18
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Re: Karl-Heinz Becker claims vs mosquito losses

hi,
many thanks i add some more info:

10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker F-5E Lightning United States 1st/8 15.46 1-15km SW of Hettstedt (PQ KC 6) @ 6200m Possibly 44-2471 of 13th PRS. Pilot POW
10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito XVI British 2nd/8 21.34 10Km SW Berlin PF392/P3-R of 692 sqn. W/O I M McPhee and Sgt. A V Sullivan both KIA
10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 3th/8 21.32 3Km S Fehrbellin "total of 10? losses this day HR434 235sqn, KB367 139sqn, KB390 139sqn, KB523 16 OTU, LR530, LR530, MM740 406sqn, MM804 151sqn, NS711, TA394 169sqn¿??"
10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 4th/8 21.32 3Km S Fehrbellin "total of 10? losses this day HR434 235sqn, KB367 139sqn, KB390 139sqn, KB523 16 OTU, LR530, LR530, MM740 406sqn, MM804 151sqn, NS711, TA394 169sqn¿?"
10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 5th/8 21.38 10Km W Nauen losses this day HR200 605 sqn Thompson F Flying Officer and Wilson R Flying Officer kia and KB354 139 sqn lost this day
10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 6th/8 21.38 10Km W Nauen losses this day HR200 605 sqn Thompson F Flying Officer and Wilson R Flying Officer kia and KB354 139 sqn lost this day
10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 7th/8 21.52 Crashed in Holland losses this day RF606 Sqn 235 and KB434 Sqn 139¿?
10/NJG 11 Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker Mosquito British 8th/8 21.52 Tegel (Berlin) losses this day PZ394 418 sqn Graham G K Flight Lieutenant and Styles R T Flying Officer kia in Hoogeveen and RV341 692sqn¿?

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Re: Karl-Heinz Becker claims vs mosquito losses

Hello G
have you seen this http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...-37317-11.html
especially the message #153

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Re: Karl-Heinz Becker claims vs mosquito losses

Hi G,

firstly, from Becker's combat reports, the details of his Mossie claims are:

21/03/1945 Mosquito Teltow area, S. city edge Berlin (GG5-6): 8.500 m. 21.34
23/03/1945 Mosquito Zehlendorf district Berlin (GG 2): 8.000 m. 23.50
23/03/1945 Mosquito Central Berlin (FG 8): 8.000 m. 23.53
24/03/1945 Mosquito 3 km. S. Fehrbellin (EF 8): 9.500 m. 21.34
27/03/1945 Mosquito 5 km. W. Nauen (FF 5): 8.500 m. 21.38
30/03/1945 Mosquito Berlin-Tegel (FG 5/5): 8.500 m. 21.52

The claim locations are originally listed under the LW grid reference (I've added the text locations for clarity). Please see the attached map that illustrates the location of these claims in relation to Berlin.

Secondly, Becker and 10./NJG11 were tasked with combating the 8 Group Bomber Command Mosquito bombing raids on Berlin. If you look at the heights (in metres) recorded for his claims then clearly any Mossies tasked on intruder duties can be discounted.

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hi,
i will revised my info...
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Re: Karl-Heinz Becker claims vs mosquito losses

GMichalski,

If you are going to copy entries directly out of my listing to post on the forum, please don't pass it off as "your own details" etc. I'd appreciate it if you would credit me somehow.
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Re: Karl-Heinz Becker claims vs mosquito losses

hi,
sorry,i forget to ask to you!!
gentlemen, the first losses info are of Nick Hector, sorry for that,
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Re: Karl-Heinz Becker claims vs mosquito losses

Obviously 235 Sqn (a coastal command squadron) can be discounted? I think that any victories are going to be against bomber units rather than intruders and so 139 Squadron are the likely opponents in many instances.

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