Gilbert Geisendorfer,DKiG

[Edward L. Hsiao]

Gentlemen,

Have you got anymore information about Gilbert Geisendorfer who was a German Cross in Gold winner of KG-51? I read some accounts of his flying experiences in the He-111 bomber over the Eastern Front in a book called Kampfgeschwader 53 "Legion Condor" by Heinz Kiehl. He had so far completed 254 combat missions and was a Oberleutnant in the middle of 1943. What was his total combat sorties before the end of WWII? Nothing so far of his combat flying of late 1943,the entire year of 1944,and the few early months of 1945. Any information about his later combat career is welcome.

Sincerely,

Edward L. Hsiao

[Chris Goss]

Gilbert flew with KG 53 not KG 51. Joining in June 1941, he flew much of his time with II/KG 53 and after being shot down by Flak on 31 Jul 1943 spent the rest of the war with IV/KG 53 and then an instructor on a flying school in Denmark. I have his brief biography and copies of his photos. I wrote about him and his BO Josef Schmauz for Flypast some time ago

[Edward L. Hsiao]

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your reply. I wonder what Gilbert Geisendorfer did after WWII?

Sincerely,

Edward L. Hsiao

[Chris Goss]

I am not sure but he did not stay in the military

[Doug Stankey]

Here is what we have about him in our database:

GEISENDORFER, Gilbert. (DKG). 28.06.41 WIA crashed in a He 111 H-5. 23.11.42 Lt., awarded the Ehrenpokal. 17.05.43 Lt. in 4./KG 53, awarded the DKG. 01.06.43 in KG 53, promo to Oblt. 31.07.43 Oblt., He 111 H-16 hit by AA and force-landed - no details.

[Chris Goss]

In addition to 28 Jun 41, he was hit by a shell taxying at Gumbrak 20 Jan 43 and shot down by Flak 31 Jul 43

[Jim P.]

There doesn't appear to be a loss report for the 20-Jan-43 incident, though that wouldn't be unusual. However for 31-Jul there are two II./KG 53 losses reported with no pilot name, a third with the pilot being KIA and a fourth with a missing crew.

Chris, do you by chance have a WNr. for Geisendorfer's incident? Offhand the He 111H-16 WNr. 160692 would seem the best match. Would love to be able to add any information to any of these incidents.

He 111H-16, 160578, Nowack, Uffz. Heinz, , II., , KG 53, , , , , 31-Jul-43, KIA due to Flak. Rest of crew OK., WNr. 170578 per loss., Lfl.6/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20, , Moskressenski, 15%, F, , ,
He 111H-16, 160583, n.n., , II., , KG 53, , , , , 31-Jul-43, Enemy fire. Bf & Bs WIA., , Lfl.6/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20, , südwestlich Bolchoff, 20%, F, Bf Uffz. Fritz Biedermann & Bs Ogefr. Peter Koll, ,
He 111H-16, 160692, n.n., , II., , KG 53, , , , , 31-Jul-43, Crashed due to Flak., , Lfl.6/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20, , PlQu. 43 25, 100%, F, , ,
He 111H-16, 160704, Borries, Ltn. Hans von, , II., , KG 53, , , , , 31-Jul-43, MIA with crew due to Flak., , Lfl.6/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20, , Staroje, 100%, F, B Fw. Werner Priebe, Bf Uffz. Franz Podaxxxxx, Bm Uffz. August Hellwerth & Bs Ogefr. Gerhard Grossklass, ,

[Maxim1]

Originally Posted by Jim P.

Moskressenski

The correct spelling of this name is most likely Woskressenski (Воскресенский).

[Chris Goss]

Jim
It was 160692-location Kratschew. 2 other crew members were Kern & Schmauz
Chris

[Jim P.]

Thank you Chris.