Bf 109 identity

[stefaan]

Hi Guys.
I am including a photo of this Bf 109.It was sent to me by someone who found an article in Australia.
It is of a Bf 109 werkno 110396.
The colours look more like Italy than N africa.
The uniforms of what looks like groundcrew can be N Africa or Italy.
Any gen on type according to Werkno an where??
Thanks
Stefaan Bouwer

[Jim P.]

Its Bf 109G-5. It certainly is not Africa and very unlikely to be Italy.

[Dénes Bernád]

Do I see a pale No. 14 just beneath the yellow fuel octane triangle?

[Kutscha]

An Erla built a/c, between Nov 43 and June 44.

[RT]

Why not an H from 5.F123, under the sun of french august sommer ??? in maybe Guyancourt..

REMI

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Jim P.

Its Bf 109G-5. It certainly is not Africa and very unlikely to be Italy.

But not impossible, given that NAG 11 had a few G-5s on strength in 1944. I know of two in the 110... series they lost but not this particular one

No doubt someone here knows when they stared putting tall tails on G-5s, which would narrow dow the dates a bit.

[George Hopp]

An Erla built a/c, between Nov 43 and June 44.

Do you know this for certain? I ask because Prien says that both G-5s and G-6s were included in the 110 200 - 110 500 production batch. Please note that I am not arguing with your statement, I am only asking.

The tall tail with what appears to be a rounded lower rear tail, was first produced with the installation of the 605AS engine, starting in Dec 43 at B&V. But, the AS used 87 octane gas, so it would appear that the sucker was modded to ASM status.

And, what unit carried small a/c numbers? NAG 11 as Nick says?

[Kutscha]

George, just going by what Prien has in his 109 book, WNr 110001-110576. Not saying it is a G-5 or a G-6.

[stefaan]

Hi

Its Bf 109G-5. It certainly is not Africa and very unlikely to be Italy.

Don't agree with this.
No S African groundcrew members served with Aussie squadrons in Europe wearing S African uniforms.Photo caption states that the guy left seated below is a S African serving with an Aussie groundcrew.S African and Australian squadrons were mixed in ie 253 Wing at Falconare Jul 44 till Jan 45 and at cesenatico Jan 45 till july 45.
Could also have been with 239 Wing in Italy.
I am including anothe worked image on yellow 14
Stefaan

[Falcon]

Originally Posted by stefaan

I am including anothe worked image on yellow 14

The "14" is imho not yellow. As reference you have the yellow fuel triangle.