Mystery Me 109?

[Mikkel Plannthin]

The 331 (N) Sqn ORB of 6 August 1944 refer to a mysterious Me 109.

"1 M.E. 109 was observed in the target area with roundel on fuselage. Red centre with white edge and a black cross in the centre."
http://danishww2pilots.dk/pilotsSort...&sortie_id=254

Is this a Bulgarian or Slovak aircraft or...?

Mikkel

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by Mikkel Plannthin

The 331 (N) Sqn ORB of 6 August 1944 refer to a mysterious Me 109.

"1 M.E. 109 was observed in the target area with roundel on fuselage. Red centre with white edge and a black cross in the centre."
http://danishww2pilots.dk/pilotsSort...&sortie_id=254

Is this a Bulgarian or Slovak aircraft or...?

The description doesn't really make sense...

[Kjetil Aakra]

I wouldn't put too much credit on combat report statements on markings and camouflage, as cited above. Another well-known Norwegian pilot claimed the destruction of a Fw 190 with Italian markings!

The heat and fast pace of combat make such observations dubious at best.

Kjetil

[Mikkel Plannthin]

Thanks Dénes and Kjetil,
I had the same thoughts. How the h... do you manage to se the details of markings passing another aircraft in combat?

Mikkel

[Franek Grabowski]

Mikkel
You would be surprised with the ammount of details reported by Raymond Lallemant on his St Valentine's Day combat!
I am rather wondering what the pilot actually saw and what could have caused such an impression to him.

[Mikkel Plannthin]

Franek,
I appriciate your point, that we need to disinguish between reporting and impressionism.

But then the question arise: what may this pilot have seen over Holland in August 1944 that bring him to report this? I just thought that it might have been a Slovak 109, but I would not have a clue as to such aircrafts being in the area
http://www.xs4all.nl/~tozu/me109/foreign/109-slovak.htm

Does not make much sence at all!

Mikkel

[Franek Grabowski]

You report what you see, and what you see is just an impression of actual object. Just do a sketch of the purpoted markings and then think, what could have done similar effect. I cannot see slovak cross in this respect.
BTW Why Holland?

[Mikkel Plannthin]

Holland might be my mistake, but I translate Z.3257 into qZ3257 and use the grid converter that I was led to in another thread. This leads to a point on the coast West of Hoorn in Holland.

But I have to admit that now you ask I doubled checked and the 100 Lancasters rather sound like the Bois-de-Cassan mission. This does not correspond with the Z.3257, though. This coordinate is given in the 331 ORB as well as the 332 ORB.

Mikkel

[Franek Grabowski]

Mikkel
There were several claims for heavy bombers at Pointoise area by III/JG26 and III/JG54. I suppose this was the very mission.