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Old 14th December 2010, 23:55
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Question Re: British Second-Line Aircraft lost in France Sept. 1939 - June 1940.

Thank you Martin for your precisions. Yes,it's possible it's Saint Philbert de Bouaine but note the diaries of N21AD indicated "23Feb DH89 GAEAM of N°24 squadron (pilot F/O DL Mc Monnies) crashed at St Philbert (near Lac grand Lieu) when en route for Chateau Bougon"
" 24 Feb DH89 salved by N°21 Aircraft Depot"


About The Bombay at Nantes, I saw a photo on Ebay. I'm sure that it taken by German troop at Nantes Chateau-Bougon. Note also that a Bombay with Demozay took of from Nantes before the arrival of German troops.
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Old 15th December 2010, 14:44
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Re: British Second-Line Aircraft lost in France Sept. 1939 - June 1940.

Hallo Alain,

I believe you are correct about St. Philbert-de-Grand-Lieu being the landing site of W6424, as I have a copy of the 21 AD ORB also.

The Bombay. A year or two ago there were several photos on E-Bay of a Handley-Page Harrow abandoned in a damaged state on a French airfield (K6996, lost 20-6-1940). The Harrow was a bomber/transport with a fixed undercarriage which was very similar to the Bristol Bombay. I wonder was this the aircraft you saw ? The date of its loss must mean it - the Harrow - was abandoned on another airfield and not the Nantes area ?

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Re: British Second-Line Aircraft lost in France Sept. 1939 - June 1940.

Hi all,

on e-bay is this photo:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-englisch...QAAOSwI2xX8Uq6

Which from Armstrong Whitworth AW 27 Ensign is it?

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Re: British Second-Line Aircraft lost in France Sept. 1939 - June 1940.

23 May 1940 24 (COMMUNICATIONS) SQUADRON, HENDON Armstrong-Whitworth AW27 Ensign. Set on fire in strafing attack by Bf109s while off-loading supplies at Merville 9.00 a.m. Captain J. M. H. Hoare and rest of crew all believed unhurt. Aircraft G-ADSZ ‘Elysian’ 100% write-off.
A 40-seat BOAC civil airliner impressed into RAF service. Captain Hoare boarded DC-3 OO-AUI for the return flight.
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Re: British Second-Line Aircraft lost in France Sept. 1939 - June 1940.

Thankd for reply

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Re: British Second-Line Aircraft lost in France Sept. 1939 - June 1940.

I have this photo in my collection and I believe that it shows two Cierva Autogyros in a wrecked hanger.

I have posted this after reading at the start of this thread "It has been suggested that several of these autogyros were lost or abandoned in France during May or June 1940. However there seems to be no evidence to support this belief, either from the individual histories in the Air-Britain serial registers, nor from photographs or published works"

However, as I do not know where this was taken or indeed who owned the Autogyros it may not help to prove or disprove the above statement!
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Re: British Second-Line Aircraft lost in France Sept. 1939 - June 1940.

The French were much larger users of this type, so I suggest this is likelier to show some of their examples.
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Re: British Second-Line Aircraft lost in France Sept. 1939 - June 1940.

Hi all,

based on the collected photos from e-bay and previous communication with
Martin Gleeson, Bertrand H and other, there is a list of Miles Masters lost In France:

Miles MASTERS.
N7545 615/87 Sqns Overturned on soft ground on landing at Merville 7-5-1940, later abandoned.
N7577 85 Sqn Abandoned in France June 1940.
N7578 87/607 Sqns Damaged 31-3-1940. Abandoned in France June 1940. (also AIR 35/138)

There are photos from my collection - source old e-bay.de :

N7574:
http://www.modelari.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2563

N7577:
http://www.modelari.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2564

N7578:
http://www.modelari.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2565

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