Late war Bf 109 pictures source

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Hi there Franck,
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An Mtt built Bf 109 G-14/AS makes more sense from all those features - though we don't have any registered at Hildesheim.
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Cheers
Marc

What about 163642 ? A batch of Regensburg made with a lot of G-6/AS ...

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

What about 163642 ? A batch of Regensburg made with a lot of G-6/AS ...

Good point, Franck; "Bodenberührung" is a fitting description for this airframe indeed.

Thanks !
Marc

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Thanks to Spektor, over on modelforum.cz, today's mystery, at least for me: this photo of an utterly wrecked Bf 109 G or K is said to have been photographed 14 February 1945 at Holbaek, Denmark.
https://samlinger.natmus.dk/FHM/asset/199302
https://samlinger.natmus.dk/FHM/asset/199303

After having checked flensted.eu, there is no known loss that day. Any hint would be highly appreciated

Cheers
Marc

[Primoz]

It must be a G, not a K. The jacking hole is in the "usual" position, while the K version had it farther forward and a little bit higher.

[ouidjat]

That G-6/R6, SJ+VT.
Look under fuselage. Not France and not JG3, as far I know. Most probably a Night Fighter ...
And check JG300 by JYL to get the equivalent ...


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Ja...cAAOSwj0tfpY8v

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

That G-6/R6, SJ+VT.
Look under fuselage. Not France and not JG3, as far I know. Most probably a Night Fighter ...
And check JG300 by JYL to get the equivalent ...


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Ja...cAAOSwj0tfpY8v

Thanks for your lead, Franck. Yup, as for the location, we have one clue for Germany: Ju 88 W.Nr. 1530 V43 "RF+IQ" was one of the Ju 188 A testbeds at E-Stelle Rechlin in 1943. Some other photos were taken there, maybe also the 109's...

Am off for my JYL

Cheers
Marc

[ouidjat]

This one too - which is not SJ+VT or "they" put a tank under belly ...
Anyway, it has a flamedamper over exhaust, obviously a night fighter. Same comment than above.


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Ja...YAAOSwSpNfpX9s

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

This one too - which is not SJ+VT or "they" put a tank under belly ...
Anyway, it has a flamedamper over exhaust, obviously a night fighter. Same comment than above.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Ja...YAAOSwSpNfpX9s

Again, note the whistle on first exhaust pipe !
BTW if you really need a night fighter unit in France, 1944, with such machines then I./JG301 was based at St. Dizier and Epinoy from 12/6/1944 to 26/8/1944.
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[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

Again, note the whistle on first exhaust pipe !
BTW if you really need a night fighter unit in France, 1944, with such machines then I./JG301 was based at St. Dizier and Epinoy from 12/6/1944 to 26/8/1944.
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Franck, thanks again. No need for me to have those photos in France.

As a possible further development, we have also a Bf 109 G-12 with partial STKz "SV+??" photographed with Uffz. Giese, 1./JG 107, based at Pau during Summer 1944 published in Prien and Rodeike 1995, p. 143.

Cheers
Marc

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Franck, thanks again. No need for me to have those photos in France.

As a possible further development, we have also a Bf 109 G-12 with partial STKz "SV+??" photographed with Uffz. Giese, 1./JG 107, based at Pau during Summer 1944 published in Prien and Rodeike 1995, p. 143.

Cheers
Marc

Hello,
The G-12 had the partial StKz "SJ+??" ...
Anyway when I wrote "You" I meant "You all" not only Marc.
Next, amazingly Stab JG301 was based at .... Rechlin ! Funny isn't it ? Yet, we don't know when the said Wolfgang died.
Last - talking about further and/or possible development(s) - the picture published by JYL in Vol 1, page 171 show us a former JG54 machine, with the famous FuBi 2 under fuselage - and the whistle - taken at Jüterbog (Wadlager) in June 1944. The caption says III./JG54 did loan its machines to II./JG302 till early 1944.
II./JG302 didn't have it's own machine and shared those used by I./JG11 and III./JG54. Disbanded in June 1944, all crews being transfered to III./JG300 ...
Here we are. Since we don't know when the pic has been taken ...


Regards,
Franck.