Late war Bf 109 pictures source

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Folks,

Labelled unit unknown, shot down in the vicinity of Colmar, November 1944... Obviously a 10. Staffel machine, but from which JG?
Marc

In Alsace in November 1944, III./JG 53 is a strong candidate.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Thanks Nick!

Any possible CEAR giving an exact date and location? I checked Prien's JG 53 Vol. 3, but no clear contender for this particular plane, alas...

[andy120]

Can anyone confirm that this aircraft is a Erla built Bf109G-10/Rüstatz 5? I see no curved panel below the cockpit, so not a G-14 and seems to have no chins on the lower cowl (110 type). The same type as the piled in one in the Prien book.

Andy

[Micke D]

Just an observation, the plane has no Erla canopy.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hi there Andy,

To the best of my knowledge, the plane which picture you attached is either a Bf 109 G-2/R6 or G-4/R6. It is certainly not a late war plane, as expressly shown by the old spoked main wheel hubs, tall antenna mast and old three pieces canopy.

Cheers
Marc

[andy120]

Darn, don't know how I missed that.

[Phas3e]

Anybody seen this one before I just found it one Facebook of all places

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...38438499_o.jpg

Looks very much like a colour photo of 109Ks the closest one with RLM 81/82 fuselage but 74/75 wing?

[RolandF]

The latest Bf 109K fuselages - unpainted lower surfaces, only a snake-form streak of RLM 76 to equalize poor pre-fab painting of the fuselages. Where does this photo come from? According to my infos the final assembly of the K-4 was done in secondary factories like Waldwerke, KZ-dependencies etc. Maybe parts of Fliegerhorst Obertraubling?

Servus

Roland

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Phas3e and Roland,

www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/11550417415
This pic was taken after 17 April 1945 at Nürnberg A/F. It stems from the Collection Rulison and was published in Luftwaffe im Focus 20, photo 5.

You're correct, Roland: those are the latest known airframes which lower fuselages and bottom were left unpainted, having this "Bodenwöhr snake" streak of RLM 76 equalizing roughly the RLM 81/82 with the unpainted fuselage surfaces....Those shown are from the W.Nr. 335 xxx batch.

Cheers
Marc

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Phas3e and Roland,

www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/11550417415
This pic was taken after 17 April 1945 at Nürnberg A/F. It stems from the Collection Rulison and was published in Luftwaffe im Focus 20, photo 5.

You're correct, Roland: those are the latest known airframes which lower fuselages and bottom were left unpainted, having this "Bodenwöhr snake" streak of RLM 76 equalizing roughly the RLM 81/82 with the unpainted fuselage surfaces....Those shown are from the W.Nr. 335 xxx batch.

Cheers
Marc

Fascinating, Never knew of this scheme before. Would love to see a color profile of it. Also, is it me or does the aircraft in that FB picture have one wing in 75/82 and the other wing 81/82? They appear to be finished differently.