Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 27th December 2018, 16:22
Marc-André Haldimann's Avatar
Marc-André Haldimann Marc-André Haldimann is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Geneva
Posts: 2,328
Marc-André Haldimann will become famous soon enough
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

I almost missed this late war Bf 109 G among the current eBay offers:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ori...oq~:rk:10:pf:0

One can see under the right wing of the Fw 189 in the foreground, a low-visibility camouflaged Bf 109 G-10. The tactical marking being a "Schwarze 7" allows to link up this airframe to the one published by Hideki Noro in his 2009 "LO+ST", p. 175. It is captioned to be an Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 152 3?3 possibly photographed at Salzburg in May 1945.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...-8RxGfG-8RuHzx

Scrutinising the published photo allows IMHO to read W.Nr. 152 033 rather then W.Nr. 152 3?3. Hence my three questions:

1. Any known W.Nr. in the 152 3xx range ?
2. Any information on W.Nr. 152 033 ?
3. Any positive identification for the airfield where those planes were found ?

Thanks in advance
Marc
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 27th December 2018, 22:22
S Sheflin S Sheflin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Califiornia, USA
Posts: 737
S Sheflin will become famous soon enough
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Hi Marc,
Regarding your question #1, I’m at work away from my database files, but I can tell you that I have approximately eight other Erla-built Bf 109 G-10’s from within the 152 xxx series, and I believe all of them to be 152 0xx, i.e., below 152 100.
As to question #3, I believe the location to be Salzburg, Austria.
I will confirm the above when I get home.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 27th December 2018, 23:22
Marc-André Haldimann's Avatar
Marc-André Haldimann Marc-André Haldimann is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Geneva
Posts: 2,328
Marc-André Haldimann will become famous soon enough
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Quote:
Originally Posted by S Sheflin View Post
Hi Marc,
Regarding your question #1, I’m at work away from my database files, but I can tell you that I have approximately eight other Erla-built Bf 109 G-10’s from within the 152 xxx series, and I believe all of them to be 152 0xx, i.e., below 152 100.
As to question #3, I believe the location to be Salzburg, Austria.
I will confirm the above when I get home.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin
Many thanks for your answers and leads, Steve; much appreciated. Looking forward for your further news.

Cheers
Marc
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 28th December 2018, 12:48
Charles Bavarois Charles Bavarois is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Munich
Posts: 239
Charles Bavarois is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Hello Marc,

as for the 152.xxx we have BAL for most a/c from 152.000 to 152.074. Then a gap followed by 152.375 to 152.395. All of them Bf 109 G-10/R6.

The 152.3xx Batch had its BAL very late in March 1945 and I did not find any more information on this birds with one exception: 152.377 was to be delivered from Leipzig Erla-Auslieferungslager to III./JG 300 on 14. April 1945 (Ultra HW5/692).

Carl
__________________
Carl E. Charles
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 28th December 2018, 13:29
ouidjat's Avatar
ouidjat ouidjat is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Shanghai, China
Posts: 3,636
ouidjat is on a distinguished road
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Bavarois View Post
Hello Marc,

as for the 152.xxx we have BAL for most a/c from 152.000 to 152.074. Then a gap followed by 152.375 to 152.395. All of them Bf 109 G-10/R6.

The 152.3xx Batch had its BAL very late in March 1945 and I did not find any more information on this birds with one exception: 152.377 was to be delivered from Leipzig Erla-Auslieferungslager to III./JG 300 on 14. April 1945 (Ultra HW5/692).

Carl
Thank you Carl,

Some are thinking I'm at least a liar, or at worst a mythomaniac (or the contrary) even when I give your name as source.
...

Franck.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 28th December 2018, 16:43
Marc-André Haldimann's Avatar
Marc-André Haldimann Marc-André Haldimann is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Geneva
Posts: 2,328
Marc-André Haldimann will become famous soon enough
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Bavarois View Post
Hello Marc,

as for the 152.xxx we have BAL for most a/c from 152.000 to 152.074. Then a gap followed by 152.375 to 152.395. All of them Bf 109 G-10/R6.

The 152.3xx Batch had its BAL very late in March 1945 and I did not find any more information on this birds with one exception: 152.377 was to be delivered from Leipzig Erla-Auslieferungslager to III./JG 300 on 14. April 1945 (Ultra HW5/692).

Carl
Excellent Carl ! Many thanks for your insight.

Cheers
Marc
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 29th December 2018, 16:25
S Sheflin S Sheflin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Califiornia, USA
Posts: 737
S Sheflin will become famous soon enough
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

CORRECTION: My last sentence should read 152xxx not 155xxx.
Steve Sheflin
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 30th December 2018, 13:49
Marc-André Haldimann's Avatar
Marc-André Haldimann Marc-André Haldimann is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Geneva
Posts: 2,328
Marc-André Haldimann will become famous soon enough
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Hi there, Gang;

This photo is nagging: it rings a bell as I'm under the impression to have seen it already - maybe because of the double white cross painted on the propeller blade base. I just searched for more then one hour this Bf 109 G-14/AS or G-10 through my files, without success... See attachment and original link here:
http://www.tankdestroyer.net/images/...50-500-100.png

Original caption says: "Sgt. Warren J. Allen of Headquarters Company demonstrates his flying and shooting skills. Photo courtesy of Charles Wilts."

Any ideas about this particular machine ?

Thanks in advance.
Marc
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10th January 2019, 07:49
sgeorges4 sgeorges4 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 30
sgeorges4 is on a distinguished road
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

do you have any bf 109 G14/AS still in factory or unachived after the war picture or not?

thanks for your answer
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10th January 2019, 23:35
Marc-André Haldimann's Avatar
Marc-André Haldimann Marc-André Haldimann is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Geneva
Posts: 2,328
Marc-André Haldimann will become famous soon enough
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Hi there sgeorges4,

There are photos of Bf 109 G-14 in final assembly at Detmold, after 13 April 1945. None I know of is of the G-14/AS variant though.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...57631642100122

Cheers
Marc
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bf 109 in a spin - what was it like? DavidIsby Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 3 11th July 2010 01:54
Bf 109 in East Coast War Bond Drive, 1944 Richard Muller Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 2 2nd February 2010 03:47
Losses - III./JG76 in October 1944 Andre Stewart Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 10 14th October 2009 10:06
Bf 109 E-1s during the Battle of Britain Christer Bergström Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 10 17th June 2006 19:20
Discussion on the air war in Tunisia Christer Bergström Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 14 1st April 2005 18:47


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 01:15.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net