He 219 found in Denmark !!!

[Tony Kambic]

Marcel,

Good to hear from you.

I provided a link to the article in Air & Space magazine which describes the find I posted about (the writing inside the He219).

http://www.airspacemag.com/military-...tml?c=y&page=1

I did have a picture of the writing before I knew about this article, so I asked an acquaintance of mine who is from Russia to please do their best translation. They responded that it stated, " I am here all alone, with very little work left to do".

The writing was difficult to photograph so I would assume that NASM had qualified translator to review it firsthand.

On a different note, since the Werke Nr. of the one engine was determined on the Denmark aircraft, I contacted the Deutsches Museum Archive about their holdings of Heinkel Aircraft Company records. They said that they only have
records from a Stuggart factory and that most of the Heinkel records were destroyed as the war ended.

I inquired about any documentation relating engines numbers to airframe.

They responded that they could not locate any such records. They did provide a few pages, which I have attached here.

I am sure that you and many others have worked with the Deutsches Museum and with Heinkel records, but since I have not seen any postings about relating the two, thought I would give it a try. I had asked Steve about it and he knew of no such documents. The Museum staff were very cordial and very timely with their responses. Maybe some of you can find some useful information in the attachments.


Tony

[Martin388]

Excellent documents from the early Prototypen stage of the He219, thanks for sharing them with us.

Martin

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Hello Tony,

I join Martin's comments about these documents and the reference to the Jumo213 was a bit premature, as the further history has shown.

Martin: I have tried to contact Steffen several times, has he changed his mailadress?

We all cross our fingers for new details about the Hirtshals He219, the indications for a I./NJG 3 bird are increasing.

All the best, Marcel

[Kim Christiansen]

21-05-1944

Heinkel He 219 A-0
Nachtjagdstaffel 1./I./NJG 1
unk
??
WNr.190107
G9 + FL
British A/C
418.Sqn Mosq

100%
Uffz. Ewald Tamke (+)
2-0-0-0
DENMARK
Cra/ Arnborg, 14km S of Herning (17.00)

01-06-1944

Heinkel He 219 A-0
Nachtjagdstaffel 3./I./NJG 1
unk
??
WNr.190119
G9 + AK
Accident
technical

100%
Oblt. Fritz Guth (+)
3-0-0-0
DENMARK
Cra/s (2km E of Muldbjerg)?, Limfjorden area (14.00)

06-06-1944

Heinkel He 219 A-0
Nachtjagdstaffel 3./I./NJG 1
unk
??
WNr.190177
G9 + IK
Accident
engine

100%
Ltn. Ernst Maass (w)
1-0-1-0
DENMARK
Cra/ the road Herning-Silkeborg, 4km S of Ikast (00.59)

21-07-1944

Heinkel He 219 A-0
Nachtjagdstaffel 3./I./NJG 1
unk
??
WNr. 190185
G9 + KL
Accident
engine

?%
Hptm. Hans Eicke (Dk) (w)
0-0-2-0
SC-HO-HA
Fla/ cityboundary Schleswig (21./22.)




Hello All

1. Is there someone in this forum who know if there is any known record of WNr.190107-190xxx used by Nachtjagdstaffel 1./I./NJG 1 and Nachtjagdstaffel 3./I./NJG 1 in Denmark?

2. Symbol used by aircraft in Denmark for example (G9 + FL) ?

3. List of number of He-219 aircraft stationed in Denmark with WNR. and Symbol ?


If anyone here in this forum would like a copy of an Excel file with 18000 Loss of German pilots and 4000 German planes in the area around Scandinavia ww2,

please mail me because the files are too big to upload on this forum !!
Mail to : danas-have@danas-have.dk


Sincerely,
Kim Christiansen

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Hello Kim,

I know someone and all of the presently known He219's in Denmark, none of these can be linked to the He219 wreck, we don't have to chew that info over again. My focus are the He219's with the I./NJG 3 because I am convinced that - unless the wreck parts disclose a Werkenummer of the He219 - the key to the identification lays there... or in a document, reporting the loss of a I./NJG 3 He219 there.

Marcel

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Just curious: any new developments?

Marcel

[edNorth]

Hello all,

Kim. You might have one code letter there "V" ??? (say V+ ...... +V ~ or ?+V ..... ?+?, but only guessing here as not certain at all, but this looks like code letter to me) or is this black patch part of the underwing insignia? "Light brown" paint around it must be dirty or faded version of Gray or possibly other colour, or does anyone know of such Brown colour used on a He 219 A-7 night-fighter? Or is this previously unknown colour in use on He 219 ???

Best regards
Ed

[SES]

Hi Kim,
I'm not quite sure I understand where the black color was found, is it part of the underwing color?
bregds
SES

[edNorth]

SES, sorry to add to your confusion, it looks like underwing code letter to me, I understand this photo be actually sideways, rotate it 90 degrees CCW and you are looking forward, under the outermost portion of the left wing, so a possibly "A" rather than "V" ???

Ed

[SES]

Hi Ed,
Thanks. I still find this significant. If it had black letters under the wing, the undersurface could hardly be black.
bregds
SES