He 219 found in Denmark !!!

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Hello gents,

I don't want to spoil a party, but the straight black outline of the black area, the yellowed white and the nearby counter balance weight suggests (at least to me) that we partially see the Balkenkreuz.
The perspective of the photos is tricky and suggesting a letter which - to my modest opinion - it is not. If it is a letter, this would be a major breakthrough and puzzling as well because no one ever reported to have seen a letter during the salvage of the wing...

As curious as you are, all the best,

Marcel

[harrison987]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm...I dont think it is the cross...location is not correct, and this type of simplfied cross (no white outline) I do not think was used on the He219.

RLM02 turns brown over time when in water. It is also stains from dirt/mud. I suspect that is why you see the brown color...

[Kim Christiansen]

Hi all

Here in Denmark, the temperature is around , 0 Celsius, and they have not begun to work on restoration yet.

As you can see on the pictures He-219 Denmark no.4, the wing are lying on the ground on top of wooden pallets.

I crawl around on the ground like a monkey ,trying to get pictures of the underside of the wing.

I'll try to arrange that the wing is lifted, if possible with a forklift, so I can take better photos and measure of the painted area.


Does anyone know the dimensions of the size of the cross from the underside of the wing. (Top to bottom) ???


Sincerely,
Kim Christiansen

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Hello Kim,

According to the He219 handbook, the whole cross (black and white parts did fit into a square of 100 x 100 centimeters (each leg of the black cross 25 centimeters wide, 37,5 centimeters long)

Good luck! Marcel

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Hello again,

According to the Luftwaffe handbook, the white (now yellowed) stripe along the black cross was 12,5 cm wide, perhaps Kim could check to confirm this?

All the best, Marcel

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Hello Kim,

Any news you can offer?

All the best, Marcel

[RT]

Schade ! 30 pages, is there the Wn nd date of loss found ??

Rémi

[Kim Christiansen]

Hi All

I have been in touch with the people at the museum, and they have started to work again with the restoration.

I hope that there will be an answer to our questions soon.

Us who dive, has found a new object with side scan sonar on the seabed near where the plane crashed.

We hope it is the missing engine or rear end of the tail section.

There is no visibility in the water at the moment, but we are ready to jump in the water at the first opportunity.

Sincerely,
Kim Christiansen

[SES]

Hi Kim,
That sounds promising, we can hardly wait.
bregds
SES

[Marcel Hogenhuis]

Hello all,

Recently I have gone through all available late war accounts and diaries of former I./NJG 1 members in which they describe (or recall) the last weeks of the Gruppe at Westerland and Mildstedt. It seemed logical to me, to start with 22 March 1945 when the I./NJG 1 was heavily strafed at Münster-Handorf and preparing to the next move to the north of Germany. As expected, this search revealed no new info, not already been processed in my databases.

I am convinced that I still don't know all He219 losses in those weeks up to VE-Day, especially the accident without personal losses. So there is still a theoretical chance, that some minor accidents and/or emergency landings (and this ditching of the He219 at Hirtshals) haven't been discovered yet.

We also know that there are large gaps in our knowledge about the He219's used with the I./NJG 3 and (if still existing) Schulstaffel NJG 1. We know further that the most - if not all - He219's found at Grove/Karup were from the I./NJG 3.

Summarizing: I am still convinced that the He219 wreck once belonged to the I./NJG 3 and/or Schulstaffel mentioned and that its loss faded into obscurity because many loss records of the last weeks of the Luftwaffe seems to have been lost forever.

As Jorn Junker knows, I have a list of many I./NJG 3 members flight logs which must be checked for new He219 identities: I hope to visit that collection later this year.

All the best, Marcel