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Old 2nd July 2014, 15:20
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

Hello Dan,

Good to hear from you and reading that you are doing well. Personally, I am far from convinced that is one of those 'black' He219, as long we haven't seen the wing underside yet.

Kim Christiansen has provided us with some promising pictures, only partially revealing something that might be the (de-colored) white part of the Balkenkreuz or something else.

With the benefit of hindsight, the preservation party could (and perhaps should) benefit far more from the supportive historian community IMHO. If they would 'feed' us with clues to work with, like they did with the engine number, we ALL would have had more knowledge about this rare bird.

On the other hand, we are not in Aalborg to clean painstakinly parts against the clock and they certainly will be fed up by all the questions/requests of curious historians like me

Nevertheless, the salvation of this wreck deserves our sincere respect and I do hope that the project does not stop there.

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Old 3rd July 2014, 16:30
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Hello Dan,

Good to hear from you and reading that you are doing well. Personally, I am far from convinced that is one of those 'black' He219, as long we haven't seen the wing underside yet.
GDay Marcel

I really want to know if its i) a black a/c and then if it is ii) at very least a sub-type. An A-2 would leave us where we are, but a confirmed A-0 or A-7 would be VERY interesting.

Do you know at what Spant the fuselage is broken (ie, how MUCH of the empennage is gone?) - looking for Schräge-Muzik specific mounting points (not present on the A-0) could help us narrow things down too... Nothing to do with the 219 is that easy though


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Nevertheless, the salvation of this wreck deserves our sincere respect and I do hope that the project does not stop there.
Totally agree with that! Just a shame we cant get definitive answers on what exactly the wing differences are, between A-0, A-2 and A-7 and then spent a week just SLOWLY going over the recovered parts.

Did they ever manage to get the Fuselage up?


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Old 11th November 2014, 13:32
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

Hi all!

It's been a long time since anything was written in this thread, but I was just wondering if there are any updates regarding this He-219?
Is the restoration/preservation still going on or are the aircraft remains on display at the Garnisonsmuseum now?

Has the elusive Werknummer materialized yet?

BR, Ingemar
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Old 13th March 2015, 21:30
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Hello everyone

First let me say thank you for all the emails I have received on my private mail about He-219 DK and hereby inform you that we are still doing everything we can here in DK, to find material of the plane.

We are pleased that there is still so much interest in the He-219 DK.

We are looking in all the files that we can find, both local and foreign, but time passes and it gets harder to find some new information.

We dive still in the area and will search with side scan sonar and magnetometer.

I am attaching the latest news from Mr.
Ron Ferguson
Author, The Heinkel He 219 - A Research Paper


And awaiting any news from you all, and hope you have something to tell and new ideas ???

Have a nice summer !!!

Sincerely,
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Old 15th March 2015, 20:50
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

Still Mr. Christiansen fails answer some suggestions put forwards much earlier in this thread, this is regarding markings or other (numbers) found on the wreck.
- Its also totally beond comprehension why he still relies totally on "info coming from persons, old files or other sources" instead of researching (properly) his own back yard wreck.
But maybe they do not know what to look out for.

My two pennies, but will be my final comment on this subject here.

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Old 15th March 2015, 22:35
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… Its also totally beond comprehension why he still relies totally on "info coming from persons, old files or other sources" instead of researching (properly) his own back yard wreck … my final comment on this subject here.

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That's probably just as well if it makes you that angry. There are politer ways of expressing disagreement and I'd urge everyone to stick to them, please.
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Old 16th March 2015, 11:45
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

The He 219 in Aalborg is in a sorry state. As far as I know, nobody is are working on the wreck. It is laying outside covered with a tarp. I am going to Aalborg next week, and I will post a Picture when I am coming home
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

Hello Delmenhorst,

After the effort to get the wreckage salvaged, your latest 'state of affairs' is really sad to hear. This rare bird deserves better!

I agree with Nick that we should stick to the rules of polite behaviour but I perfectly understand the feelings of Ed: more that once we have offered help but when we are putting forward specific questions the team in Aalborg is not responsive. If they only turn one wing over, we could study possible traces of a marking for instance. Coöperation is a bidirectional way of communication...

Still hoping for any clues to work on, all the best, Marcel
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He 219 at Aalborg a couple of weeks ago
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