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Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Hi guys
After the success of my enquiries into PQ17 and 18, may I ask the experts for details of Luftwaffe losses (and claims) during these earlier convoys, please? Cheers Brian |
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Is there any definite info. on which convoys were subject to air attack which would help with this. Wikipedia indicates air attacks on :
PQ10 around 12-4-42 while on the return voyage PQ13 air attack on 28-3-42 PQ14 air attacks between 15th to 18-4-42 PQ15 attacked by 6 Ju88 on 1-5-42 one aircraft lost and on 3-5-42 by I/KG26 who lost 3 aircraft (first torpedo attack?) PQ16 between 25th to 30-5-42 subject to air attacks sinking 6 ships. Probaly some recon. aircraft lost on earlier convoys but GQM would not indicate a specific convoy mission, Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Hello Brian,
Here are a few books that may help. I do not own them. http://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-CONVOYS.../dp/1844156117 http://www.amazon.com/Forgotten-Sacr...ref=pd_sim_b_2 If anything, they should be able to fix some or most dates for air attacks. Usual disclaimer, Ed |
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Thanks Ed
I have ARTIC CONVOYS but not the other title. I'm confident we'll be successful with this quest, also! Cheers Brian |
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Hi Brian,
only have some Ju 88´s vs PQ./QP. convoys, not much indentified, and nothing on date 01.05.1942. I have not checked when first Ju 88 A-4 LT were employed from Norway, mostly He 111´s but yes, some from ex-KG 28 (and old KG 26 book likely has details on this, do not have it now). (0880)797 Ju 88 A-5 F [DE+SS] Luftwaffe - Ju 88 C-4 [DE+SS] Luftwaffe Converted to Áfflebach-Zerstörer at JFM Dessau in late 1941, flown there 01.1942 and 02.1942, BAL Abnahme at Dessau 13.02.1942 [post by Peter Achs to author on TOCH forum 07.2006] - Ju 88 C-4 [4D+HA] Erp.St./KG 30 (Luftflotte 5) OPS (F) damaged by AA fire [in attack on Convoy PQ.13 at sea off North-Norway] was force landed (70%) on mountain side near Sandfjord, at Nordkyn, Kinnarodden, Norway 28.03.1942 (Staffelkapitän F Hptm. Cuno Gotthardt badly inj, B Oblt. Helmut Lütgens badly inj. and BF Uffz. Willi Hillebrecht slightly inj.) [rep Ju 88 A5 797 in LWFLV losses; W.Nr. 0797 was painted on lower tip of tail, this is now in the Gamvik museum, Norway; reported in error as He 111 and 4D+HA down at sea in POS 7109N/2740E in TNA: HW13/98 SALU 431 P.5; W.Nr. 0880797 had C-4 Zerstörer type nosecap and nose guns; code from SIG Luftwaffe Norway homepage] Sold by Norwegian Government to locals after war ended (1945) - Wreck was recovered in separate operations by RNoAF Museum to local storage site in Northern Norway in 1999 and 2000 - Then moved by ship transport to the RNoAF Museum at Bodö in 2001 - Stored in Bodö [2004] (0880)688 Ju 88 A-5 [GM+ZM] Luftwaffe [mfd 12.40; Likely mounted in January 1940] - Ju 88 A-5 [GM+ZM] 1.(F)/124 (Luftwaffe) Known ´Umschúlung´ at Aalborg, Denmark 23.02.41 [F Erwin Bauer was converting from Do 215 to new type (doing 12 flights on GM+ZM that day).] - Ju 88 A-5 F [G2+AH] 1.(F)/124 (Luftflotte 5 East) OPS (F) mis (100%) unk location (Nordmeer) [downed by ships AA fire from Allied Convoy PQ.9 in the Arctic Ocean/the Barentssea, off Norway] 31.03.1942 (F Fw. Georg Schuchardt, BM Uffz. August Brünnighof, B Uffz. Willi Schirmer and BF Uffz. Walter Wieser mis) [rep A5 688 in LWFLV losses; names rep in amd f/09.04.42; causes and loc. fm other sources] (0880)140171 Ju 88 A-4 [4D+AC] Stab.II/KG 30 (Luftflotte 5 East) OPS (F) damaged (08%) by <enemy> AA fire (PLQ 37öst/62..) [attack on Allied Convoy PQ.15 (that sailed from Oban in Scotland 10.04.42) West of Norway] 11.04.1942 (Gruppenkommandeur F Hptm. Sigmund-Ulrich Freiherr von Gravenreuth injured) [rep A4 0171 in LWFLV losses 119v16.04.42 (rep not damaged later!) - code in ARS website KLPA listings (Gravenreuth)] - Ju 88 A-4 5./KG 30 (Ob.Befh.Sud) OPS (F) downed by fighter fire (100%) at Louk El Arba 12.01.1943 (F Oblt. Hans-Joachim Kost, B Ofw. Bruno Lehmann and BF Fw. Hans Dietzig killed) (rep A4 140171 in losses) cheers, ed |
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Great stuff, Ed
That's a fine start. Perhaps Brian Bines has details of the KG26 losses for 2 May 1942? Cheers Brian Last edited by Brian; 31st January 2013 at 19:01. |
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Hi Brian,
neither Luftwaffe SIG Norway or Nordik Aviation in WW2 sites show KG26 losing aircraft on 2/5/42 only as below on 3/5/42 :- 03-05-1942 Heinkel He 111 H-6 Lufttorpedostaffel ?./I./KG 26 Bardufoss 5A WNr. 0004 950 unk British S/f unk 100% Uffz. Paul Hofalski (+) 4-0-0-0 Norweg. Sea Cra/s near convoy PQ15, (Pl.Qu.17-Ost-9481) 03-05-1942 Heinkel He 111 H-6 Lufttorpedostaffel ?./I./KG 26 Bardufoss 5A WNr. unk unk British S/f unk ?% Ltn. Arnold Harman (w) 0-0-2-2 NORWAY Lan/Sda/ on airfield Bardufoss Bruce Lander |
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Hi Bruce
My slip up - Brian Bines wrote 3 May! Cheers Brian |
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Brian,
I was looking them up but Bruce beat me, the crew of 4950 lost to AA fire was Ff Uffz.Paul Hofalski, B Oblt.Kurt Jauer St.Kap, Bf Uffz.Karl Wagner and Bs Uffz.Gustav v.Rambow all missing (from KG 26 book which is clearer than GQM), Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: Convoys PQ1 to PQ16 Luftwaffe losses
Brian,
Just to add to Bruce's second loss report GQM has Enemy Fire Pl.Qu. 9481/17 FF Ltn Arnold Harman and Bs Ogef Wilhelm Arnold wounded, no aircraft details. GQM reports between 27-5-42 to 4-6-42 has a number of KG30 losses which are likely to link to Convoy Attacks Iwill post these later unless my slow typing gets beaten, Brian Bines |
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