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Old 30th January 2014, 16:13
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Re: Hunting Tito: A History of Nachtschlachtgruppe 7 in World War II

I did not do anything regarding Bulgarian Air Force in book about NSGr. 7. IN the NSGr. 7 book there is a few things about Italian and Croatian AF but they were out of the scope of my research. Both, Italian and Croatian AF were mentioned only when and if needed for better understanding.

There are few things also about USAAF and RAF as they were obviously attacking guys from NSGr. 7.

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Old 14th February 2014, 22:40
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Re: Hunting Tito: A History of Nachtschlachtgruppe 7 in World War II

In this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1...pf_rd_i=468294

on pages 65 and 66 you can find a dogfight between USAAF and NSGr. 7 from 1945
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Old 14th February 2014, 23:23
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Re: Hunting Tito: A History of Nachtschlachtgruppe 7 in World War II

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In this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1...pf_rd_i=468294

on pages 65 and 66 you can find a dogfight between USAAF and NSGr. 7 from 1945
I never doubt that this kind encounters occured, my point simply is that it never was NSGR 7's job to fight off USAF or RAF, if some of their crews had the misfortune to bump into front line fighters of USAF and RAF, then it was just their bad luck, I am very sure some crews of USAAF L-4 had the same feeling when they were Jumped by some FW-190 at the invasion front in 1944. Besides the active hunting Tito period has be long over after later 1944
I mean no disrespect to the author, all I said is between 1941 and first half of the 1943, when majority of hunting Tito was going on and before USAF and RAF threw any sizable force into that area , Tito's men had little means to fight back against Luftwaffe, hence the obsolete aircraft of the NSGr7 matters little.

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Old 18th February 2014, 07:51
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Re: Hunting Tito: A History of Nachtschlachtgruppe 7 in World War II

Hello Mars,

Before anything, whatever comment I get I think I can use it to get better as researcher and maybe I will be able to made better books and articles. That exactly happened with my first published article in Avions, which was - when I read it today - a nuclear disaster.

Secondly, yes you might be right, NSGr. 7 stopped actively hunting Tito after the Rösselsprung (end May 1944), but was flying till the end of war when overcast was 9/10 or 10/10 or very early in the morning and late before sun went down due to the air supremacy of the Allies. But even flying like that - they were deadly - and they were flying a lot. Buy a book :-) to see the rest.

Lastly somewhere in these discussions I read about the aid of the Allies to Tito. Sure there was aid - I referred to it in a book also, but was not so much from British (except one squadron of Spit Vc and Hurricanes MkI). Shoes, salt and expired medicines did not made Tito win the war, and Churchill's "love" for Tito is well known. Check the Yalta conference writings. Remember, that what we learned in school was often distorted history written by the winners.

Anyway this story about the aid is to be discussed somewhere else.

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Old 20th February 2014, 17:34
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Re: Hunting Tito: A History of Nachtschlachtgruppe 7 in World War II

Yes, sir, your book is interesting, I will buy one when it is available, all my previous comments has nothing to do with the quality of your book, because the title of your book is "Hunting Tito", I assume it will not include any part of operations NSGr. 7 flew against Allied after later 1944, looks I am wrong. Anyway according to my knowledge, after Italy capitulation in 1943, Tito's army took over large amount of Italian weapons, and many Italian soldiers deserted to him, so I guess NSGr. 7 would face a much more difficult time after that.

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Old 15th August 2014, 21:21
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Re: Hunting Tito: A History of Nachtschlachtgruppe 7 in World War II

Does anyone have update on when this book will be available? At amazon, it displayed as "ship in 6 to 10 days", but we all know in amazon lingo, everything other than "Ship in 24 hours" or "ship in 2 to 3 days" actaully means "This item is not available now, and we do not know when it will be available"
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Re: Hunting Tito: A History of Nachtschlachtgruppe 7 in World War II

Publisher's site says October 2014.
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