Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein

[edwest2]

Here is an article from the FalkeEins blog that I think is helpful:


http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2011/0...-fighters.html

[knusel]

Yes, apropos Günther Bertram, have you ever come across a photo of this He 111 top scorer ?

[edwest2]

I have not.

[TigerTimon]

Originally Posted by knusel

Yes, that sounds familiar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinri...n-Wittgenstein
and the wording suggests that no kills were scored on that occasion.

How I read the Wikipedia article - a short flight - makes me think of a non-operational sortie.

[TigerTimon]

Yes, I remember reading that too. That was on Wikipedia I believe.
I don't know if that's trustworthy. Maybe the Wikipedia page has been changed in the mean time, that you can't find the source anymore?

You too a good weekend!

Timon

[Jim P.]

Try finding Claire Rose Knott's "Princes of Darkness", Ian Allan, 1-903223-95-6. It is a nice bio of both Heinrich Prinz zu Sayn-Wittgenstein & Egmont Prinz zur Lippe Weissenfeld.

(Sayn-Wittgenstein's first combat sorties were flown as an observer in He 111s in KG 1 in 1939 and early-1940.)

[richdlc]

I would second that. It mentions Zur Lippe-Weissenfeld's single victory only in a Do 17.

[knusel]

Originally Posted by richdlc

I would second that. It mentions Zur Lippe-Weissenfeld's single victory only in a Do 17.

Do you mean his first kill (17Nov40) ?

[knusel]

It seems as if at least three vom Say-Wittgenstein's kills were confirmed belatedly after his death. This might partly explain why is score is sometimes indicated as 79 and soemtimes as 83.

[Teresa Maria]

I once read a book about night fighters (it was about Helmut Lent, Heinz Schnauffer, Heinrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein, etc.; it may have been The Lent Papers, but I'm not sure) and I remember they flew Bf 110s, but I may not remember exactly.