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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Hentschel engine plant in Kassel
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Item 71 is most likely Bf 109 E-7 WNr. 5014.
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
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Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.10. There is a strong possibility here though we can admit too "T" could have been replaced. Last, can be a typo from both parts ... And no other entries concerning both machines to check "who" is "who" ... Regards, Franck. |
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Hi Steve,
Under #3 it is written Henschel Kassel. |
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
A group shot of some planes in question along the railroad
(from Alexey Sergeev's page): http://deruluft.livejournal.com/93200.html It is pity that items 77-99 of the TsAMO list remains without comparison with German data. Best regards, Andrey |
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Amazing. Absolutely amazing.
Thanks, Ed |
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Hello, all. Vacation time in Norway - no time for Luftwaffe stuff most days - but here goes:
Page 7 has 13 entries, and I refer to them by the model etc as written by the Soviets. I have not altered the records to show information from the new source yet: 77. Me 109E-4 WNr 7615: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147777 78. Ju 88A-5 WNr 2336: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=145487 79. Me 110 WNr 4503: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146845 80. Ju 87 D3 TR WNr 2446: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146904 81. Me 109 WNr 13289: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=148068 82. Me 109F-4 WNr 7261: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=151195 http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147152 83. Me 109F-4 WNr 7646: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=148808 84. Me 109F-4/Trop WNr 10219: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=149364 85. Me 109F-4/R1 WNr 13355: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=152515 http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147395 86. Me 109 of JG 53 - White 8: No information 87. Ме 109Е-7 WNr 6426: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=163189 http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142645 88. Ме 109Е-7/U-1 WNr 6479: No information 89. Fi 156 WNr 20732/26: No information Regards, Andreas B
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Andreas, a small blot in your excellent posts:
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Go145A WNr1524 DB+GO Kind regards, Andrey |
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Andrey,
Thank you ever so much for the exciting new photo. Steve Sheflin |
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Page 8 has 10 entries, and I refer to them by the model etc as written by the Soviets. I have not altered the records to show information from the new source yet:
90. Ju 87D3 TROP WNr 2404: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147556 91. Me 110G5 WNr 82225: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=161720 92. Me 109E7 U-1 WNr 5103: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=156758 93. Me 110F4 WNr 22718: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147240 94. Me 110E2/N WNr 3938: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=155811 95. Ju 88A-4 WNr 4106: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146993 96. Ju 88A-4 WNr 6716: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146084 97. He 111-6 TROP WNr 7604: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147346 98. Me 109E7 U-2 WNr 2030: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142576 99. Ju 88A-4 WNr 5502: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=132030 Regards, Andreas B
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