eBAy: Captured german planes

[RudiS]

Ed,

You are twice writing "DH". Typo?

Regards,
Rudi.

[edNorth]

Yes, former can be
280237 Ju 188 (F-1) 8H+DH 1.(F)/33 (Luftflotte 3)
Found at "Les Chanoines Airdrome" in 1944
- or be same as 290187 8H+DH reported at "Les Chanoines Airdrome"
Both were reportedly burned out but one is confirmed AFAIK and photo
of tail of 8H+DH appears have 87 as last two, and overpainted Stkz seems match 290187
(REF Remi photo)

latter can be
713632 Ju 88 G-1 4R+GH I/NJG 2 (France)
Found dumped at Dijon Airfield, France, in autumn 1944

[RudiS]

#331: Thanks for the additional info, Ed.

Regards,
Rudi.

[edNorth]

Anyone having better location for "Les Chanoines Airdrome"
(google does not help) translates as "skirt" - outskirts of where ?

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by edNorth

Anyone having better location for "Les Chanoines Airdrome"
(google does not help) translates as "skirt" - outskirts of where ?

Just a place name, nothing to do with clothing as far as I know.

Sone information that's been on the net since 2004: http://ghostbombers.com/dragoon/appx1a.html

[edNorth]

near Istres it appears
remains of old dispersals at Istres are visible on Google maps

St Martin de Crau possibly ...
"Les Chanoines Airdrome" is listed separately (below Istres/Le Patis and Istres/Le Teube)
in MAAF Technical Report and RAF Captured Aircraft List No. 259 (but number is missing from my copy)

Ju 188 5243 was Ju 188 D-2 150042 8H+EH
(5243 was fuselage number)

(skirts ... clothing here ... https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanoine

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by edNorth

St Martin de Crau possibly ...

Saint-Martin-de-Crau definitely.

I used a number of sources for that appendix, primarily MAAF Intelligence Section Files 1944–45, National Archives AIR51/281 (which is on microfilm only).

[edNorth]

adding St Martin is now also destroyed island

[edNorth]

Well, I like point to you that I too have MAAF lists and RAF CEA Lists -
I have tried point out errors before but some seem not noticing ???

No 259 (is based on MAAF and has same mistakes) but I have worked out some
(verified them "by eliminating" be others of same last three or four),
some on your list are still incomplete numbers, like the one pointed out in post #338,
also Ju 188 041 was most probably 150041 etc.

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by edNorth

Well, I like point to you that I too have MAAF lists and RAF CEA Lists -
I have tried point out errors before but some seem not noticing ???

There are certainly earlier and later versions of those reports and errors did indeed creep into some of them. This was particularly noticeable in some of the reports from mainland Italy regarding Cr. 42s of NSG 9. Other "mistakes" are probably attributable to the condition of the wreckage under examination.

some on your list are still incomplete numbers

Because my aim when I started work on the campaign (circa 1995–96) and then the web pages (2004) was to reproduce what was in the original reports and add any later comments as "footnotes" in the white boxes. I may return to Operation Dragoon one day, if I find some promising sources, but I've been kind of busy with other events in France for some time.