Stanislaw, Skalski

[Franek Grabowski]

Guys, all your questions concerning Skalski's score shall be answered by the book.

Keith, if I could find any accounts portraying Skalski as a man, I would include them. It was already too late, when I started my research, and by now all the people who could tell anything about him personally are gone.

[knusel]

Good morning Franek & Co,

yes, ironically Skalski died just when Slizewski and Cony published their Skalski biography in AVIONS. :-(

What is your general opinion about the Lista Bajana ?
http://aces.safarikovi.org/victories/lista.bajana.pdf

Cheers,

Michael

[Franek Grabowski]

The research just came too late, thanks to communists. Skalski had to be interviewed in 1960s or 1970s, as well as the other airmen, but this was not possible.

The Bajan List is an official score, and there is no other such list.

[knusel]

Good morning Franek,

do you have the impression that pilots who served with the Soviet Union had a better postwar life ?
http://www.aces.safarikovi.org/victo...oland-lwp.html

Michael

[Franek Grabowski]

Well, it depends on what do you mean by better life. Most of those on the list were Soviets, and returned to the SU, in plenty of cases much to their disappointment. Some, not those from the list, deserted, and escaped to the west. In general they were in a better position, as with few exceptions, they were not persecuted.

[Franek Grabowski]

Greg is out for a week or two.
As to the list, a better one is in my book, it includes victories not claimed and downgraded. The victory on 8 November 1940 was for one shared and not two.

[knusel]

Good morning Franek,

you're right.
I was wondering if Greg S. is Greg Śliżewski because the latter wrote an article for AVIONS which lists two shared Hurricane kills less and one Spitre kill more than indicated in the list that Greg S. posted in post 7.

Have a nice weekend,

Michael

[Many Souffan]

Hello All.

It's a long time I follow this thread About Skalski.

I didn't want to answer for many reasons, maybe you will understand

I had the honour to meet Stanislaw Skalski in Warsaw the 5th september 2000.

My guide was now my friend Franek. a long friendship.

After I did my article about Skalski in REPLIC in 3 parts in n°113, 114 and 115 of Jan, feb and march 2001.

When I saw the article in Avions n° 141 (dec 2004) I was vey upset and annoyed because some photos and some infos came directly from my article without asking a permission.

I was sure because for these 2 photos I took directly during my visit to "Skal" . Impossible to find these two photos outside of the collection of the great Ace

In my revue AceS in issue number 2 (Feb 2017) I did a new version of the bio of Skalski with the help of Franek with some photographs ( his book is fantastic !).

For the victories of the 8 nov 1940, I found at the PI&SM a long time ago a paper in the Skalski files about these 2 victories of 8 nov 1940. I have a xray copy of this paper some where.

It was written that 2 Bf 109 shared were claimed by 3 pilots of 501 Sqn, among them S. Skalki, on 8th november

The story is like that In the morning of 8th november a patrol of 501 Sqn A flight composed if I Remember well with P/O Skalski (V6723/SD°B) F/S Whitehouse (V7469/K) and F/L Jones (????) see a pair of Bf 109; they attack them but themself were attacked by outnumbered of Bf 109. They flew away

Even the 3 pilots of RAF have seen some impacts they didn't claim these victories. The same day, in the same place the unit of the Royal Observer Corps have seen the combat and found the wrecks of 2 Bf 109. The only, really only, pilots in the air at this precise moment were the pilots of 501 Sqn. The claim was official in the middle december 40

One of the 2 photos I took at Skalki's house show the 3 pilots with the rudder of one of the 2 Bf 109 shot down on 8th november 1940.

This photo was with a bad quality that why I didn't put in my last article in AceS

Thank you.

Ps. Sorry for my bad English.

[PMoz99]

Hello Many.
Thank you for the detailed information regarding Skalski's 2 shared kills of 8 Nov 1940.
Peter

[robert]

Hi Many,

do you have time of these patrol in the morning of 8.11.40?

Regards

Robert