Josef Kunz 8/JG5

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Hi Johannes
Thank's

Its 3rd (Lagg3),it's not rather the 05/11/42,the 241st of 8/Staffel?
According to the extract of its flugbuch provided by Russ,that of 14/01/45 would be his 18th?

michel

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Hi Russ

Very interesting!! I also discovered his presence with E.J.G./West in 1943
I sent you my email address in private message.

Best Regards

michel

[Johannes]

Hi Guys

Kunz born 25.05.1919 died 02.04.2020.

Regards

Johannes

[Russ Fahey]

Hello Michel & Johannes,
Kunz's available flugbüch starts on May 21, 1943, at which time he was an instructor with 4./E.J.G West at Cazaux. He remained with that unit until Oct. 30, 1943, when he returned to 8./JG 5, resuming flights from Petsamo on December 1, 1943.
The first victory documented in the logbook is notated as #8,
a "Jak-7" on March 13, 1944. Johannes lists this claim as Kunz's 7th. The difference is probably due to the fact that his first victory, a Mig-3 on May 17,1942, which Johannes lists as non-confirmed, was probably counted in Kunz's running total. In this case, victory #7 would be marked, as it shows in the logbook, as #8.
Therefore, with this logical discrepency in Kunz's victory total being only one between that of Johannes (17) and Kuhn's FB (18), the numbers seem to add up.
Indeed, the victory lists (Kunz FB, Johannes) are almost identical. The exception, however, applies to 2 victory claims, one which is in Kunz's FB but not in Johannes list, and another which is on Johannes list but not in the FB.

Here's the breakdown of the victories shown in the logbook and Johannes list:

March 13, 44 "Jak-7" FB:#8 Johannes:#7
April 23, 44- 3 "Kittyhawk" & 2 "Aircobra FB:#9-#13 Johannes #8-12
May 10, 44 "Il-2" FB:#14 Johannes:#13
May 11, 44 "Kittyhawk" FB:#15 Johannes #14
August 4,44 (4./JG 5) "Thunderbolt" FB: #16 (parachuted out of Me 109, probably a G6, "white 9") Johannes: #15

August 21,44 (4./JG 5) "Boeing" FB:#17 (between 9:54 & 11:36)
Johannes: not listed
December 12,44 (13./JG 4) P-47 FB: not listed ( but did fly "Jabo- Jagd" at appropriate time between 14:57 & 15:56) Johannes: #16 (@1548)

January 14, 45 (13./JG 4) "Thunderbolt" FB:#18 Johannes: #17
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Anyway, I can send a scan of the flugbüch to you off-line if you're interested.

Russ