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Old 30th September 2019, 12:55
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Thank you Tomislav,
I have deduced the same factory/engine code relationships for the DB601A-F so far. The 1xxxx block is, I think, Berlin Marienfelde Werk 90 but this has very few numbers in the data that I have, despite production of 1,184 DB600 and 2,762 DB601. BTW, Werke 40 was the Truck plant-although who knows if they made parts for the Aero engine Werke at times?
May I ask if your factory (the three-letter Hersteller) code info is rock solid? I don't have much independent cross-reference on those?
Thanks for posting your info, I am trying to corelate all my data independently and see how the 605 info ties in. Cheers

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Old 30th September 2019, 13:00
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Gentlemen, please consider that the DB 605 engine was also produced in Italy. It's missing from the list.
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Old 30th September 2019, 18:53
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

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Gentlemen, please consider that the DB 605 engine was also produced in Italy. It's missing from the list.
Yes, I have Fiat production at 334 DB605. The only engine ID I have is the restored Aer Macchi MC205 Veltro at Varese. This is listed with "Fiat Mercedes Benz DB605A 76679". I would be interested in any other info on the Fiat production. Cheers

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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Hi folks,
I have found two more engine numbers which are listed below:

1) Fw. Brechtl, Josef / 7./JG.54 / Bf 109G-2 (+2 blau) / WNr. 13666 / Engine# 35669 / 6.1.1943 /

2) Fw. Schütz, Willy / 6./JG.52 / Bf 109G-2 (+11 gelb) / WNr. 13674 / Engine# 77496 / 1.12.1943 /

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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

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Thank you Tomislav,
I have deduced the same factory/engine code relationships for the DB601A-F so far. The 1xxxx block is, I think, Berlin Marienfelde Werk 90 but this has very few numbers in the data that I have, despite production of 1,184 DB600 and 2,762 DB601. BTW, Werke 40 was the Truck plant-although who knows if they made parts for the Aero engine Werke at times?
May I ask if your factory (the three-letter Hersteller) code info is rock solid? I don't have much independent cross-reference on those?
Thanks for posting your info, I am trying to corelate all my data independently and see how the 605 info ties in. Cheers

Best Wishes

SM
Hi everyone,
I am pleased to report some interesting data about DB 601 E and F production at Berlin Marienfelde Werk 90 (DBM).
As you see in my post #80 above, I postulated DBM as the manufacturing plant for block 1xxxx engines. This is despite the BIOS report data that shows Marienfelde ceasing "DB 601" production in August 1941 and not being listed for DB 605 production at all in that report (which was compiled for BIOS by DB Stuttgart just after the end of the War in Europe).
During investigation of a main bearing cap held by the Freeman Field Museum in USA, and recorded on the "WW2 Aviation.net" website, this cap was identified as being from engine Werk-Nr 14366 with the date 6/1942.
Great assistance was given by member Steve Sheflin and he supplied a listing of close Wk.Nr from his data. This information showed not only the engine types (DB 601 E and F) but also included two references to DBM, one also with a Typenschild showing Berlin Marienfelde Werk 90. So, the combined information shows that DBM were producing these engines there until at least mid 1942, despite the BIOS report having no record.
Many thanks to Steve Sheflin for his generous help with his data, which is listed here;
E 14125 DBM?
E 14259
F 14304
F 14337
(E/F 14366 Build date 6/1942, No 1 Main bearing cap)
E-1 14379 DBM, Werk 90 Berlin Marienfelde (Typenschild)
F 14396
F 14406 or 14408*

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Old 29th November 2021, 19:25
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Thank you Gabor,
I am always excited to add more Motornummern to my files.
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Which manufacturer built DB 605A engines, from late 1942, in the following constr. no. batch: "700/XXX"? Many thanks.
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Regarding engine production at Fiat.


"The engine was also produced under license in Italy by FIAT from 1942. The first examples retained the original name DB 605, whereas those produced from 1943 were renamed FIAT RA 1050 RC 58I Tifone,
for a total production of nearly 1750 exemples, mainly used in the fighter aircrafts FIAT G. 55, Macchi C. 205 and Reggiane Re 2005."


Source: https://www.museomotori.unipa.it/sch...?id=26&lang=en
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

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Which manufacturer built DB 605A engines, from late 1942, in the following constr. no. batch: "700/XXX"? Many thanks.
Hi Dénes,
Please could you explain your batch number a little for me? Numbers with / are rare and I don't see any number like 700/xxx in the data. In fact, there are only about 17 entries with 6 digit numbers, the vast majority are 5 digit, then 7 digit in early '44 and 9 digit late '44 till end of data early'45.
The only 6 digit with 700xxx I see is 700420. Is that the sort of number you are looking for or, would it be 700/420 in your case?

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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Interestingly, the only six-digit DB 605 A-1 Motornummern that I have in my admittedly-limited database file, that begin with “7,” are a group of eighteen that were shipped to Finland. These range sporadically from 705096 to 708919. There may be others, but I have been unable to enter them into my database file yet.
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