Please help to identify this part

[Tomislav Haramincic]

Hello Rolfeb,

The aircraft part that you found is from a Bf109 F (from F-1 to F-4, all have used this part), so the small part with the engine number 601 fits very nicely to this one.
The part with the number 109.412-0101 is a lever (Hebel) which is part of the "Zwischenhebel bei Rippe 2", part of the flight control in the left wing (Steuerung im Flügel links).

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by Tomislav Haramincic

Hello Rolfeb,

The aircraft part that you found is from a Bf109 F (from F-1 to F-4, all have used this part), so the small part with the engine number 601 fits very nicely to this one.
The part with the number 109.412-0101 is a lever (Hebel) which is part of the "Zwischenhebel bei Rippe 2", part of the flight control in the left wing (Steuerung im Flügel links).

Hi Tomislav, this is exiting and very interesting. Means I was searching for a crash site of a G-14 and found by coincidence a different one in same area. Thanks a lot for your support and happy to be almost sure now that I found a F and not the G-14. now the big question is, who was the pilot.
Thanks again, really appreciate your feedback.
Rolfeb

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Indeed, we are all here to learn and for me, whose knowledge of aircraft parts is NIL, I have Always learned on this kind of threads.
Some of you are really experten on that field, so please do be patient with those who are not, specially regarding scales, how to post the pictures, etc.
Not very many of us did Aircraft Investigation Courses or are familiar with this kind of procedures, not are familiar with the GRADE system of radius to illustrate the main impact and a possible area of dispersing of fragments, etc...
Bronc, Tomislav (and other experts on aircraft parts) you are real aces on your fields...Thanks for sharing your knowledge and patience with the rest of us...
ROLF, am sure with time you will find the true story behind those pieces of Messerschmitt you do have on your hands...Be patient too...help will come...
MATTI and other members may have a list of crashes around your area....so...the information will come...you can also dig on the nearby graves if there are "fallen" Luftwaffe pilots nearby...
An amazing thread again on this Fantastic Site. Congratulations for all.
A.

[Rolfeb]

Thanks a lot so far for your answers.
Would like to come back to my initial point and recap so far.
1. I was searching for a crash site where I expected to find parts of a Me 109 G-14.
2. Found some relics, especially a part of a DB 601 which led to the discussion if the crashed plane was a 109 F and not a G-14.
If it was a version F, is it possible it flew still with III./JG 53 in Nov. 44?
Eye witnesses believe the crash took place in Nov. 44.
Is it possible the plane belonged to a different unit?, but flew in Nov. 44?

To my knowledge the version F flew only until end of 42, correct.
Thanks in advance
Rolf

[Snautzer]

https://www.schwarzwaelder-bote.de/i...f6061b1af.html

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by Snautzer

https://www.schwarzwaelder-bote.de/i...f6061b1af.html

Hi Snautzer,
Thanks for sending. I organised the meeting in 2016. Sommer was pilot of the III./JG 53 in 44 and shot down in a dog fight.
The unit was based in Donaueschingen-Süd. But this is a different story/crash
Thanks again
Rolf

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by Snautzer

https://www.schwarzwaelder-bote.de/i...f6061b1af.html

Hi Snautzer,
Thanks for sending. I organised the meeting in 2016. Sommer was pilot of the III./JG 53 in 44 and shot down in a dog fight.
The unit was based in Donaueschingen-Süd. But this is a different story/crash
Thanks again
Rolf

[schwarze-man]

Hi Rolf. If the lever part and the Kurbelgehause part are from the same aircraft then it is pretty certain that it was Bf109F3 or F4 because the 601.104-001 part is a 601E component and that engine was fitted to that version of the 109 (and some early 109G prototypes). I believe that the 109F was still flying in the training role later in the war. Some specialists here will have information about that.
Any chance of a picture of the Kurbelgehause to enjoy? Cheers

SM

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by schwarze-man

Hi Rolf. If the lever part and the Kurbelgehause part are from the same aircraft then it is pretty certain that it was Bf109F3 or F4 because the 601.104 part is a 601E component and that engine was fitted to that version of the 109 (and some early 109G prototypes). I believe that the 109F was still flying in the training role later in the war. Some specialists here will have information about that.
Any chance of a picture of the Kurbelgehause to enjoy? Cheers

SM

Hi and thanks for your post.
Attached the part I found just a few days ago from the Kurbelgehäuse.
Cheers

[Snautzer]

And you made Broncs day, ruler and all :-]]