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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Well I guess what I meant was whatever the dark green that used to be known as RLM83, and that was used in combination with RLM75, particularly on these prefabricated tail assemblies, is now called.
![]() cheers, Chris edit - found it, Don, please substitute my (erroneous) RLM83 above with a ‘Dark Green RLM81 variation’ |
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Thanks Chris & Franck
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never fear, Smith is here Last edited by Smith; 18th September 2020 at 11:43. Reason: Misplaced line of questioning |
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
And for today's eye's pleasure,
this original scan from the negative made by Lt. C. J. Woods, 4 May 1945, at Bad Zwischenhahn from an Erla built Bf 109 G-10 in its typical late war low visibility two green splinter scheme.It is already published since 1989 by Carl Hildebrandt in his Broken Eagles, p. 4. Any ideas for its W.Nr. ? Current archive: C. J. Woods. Army Numerical, Northwest Europe. Department of National Defence. Library and Archives Canada, e999917495-u / https://www.flickr.com/photos/lac-ba...-oreTUf-obM8jT Cheers Marc |
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Hi there Gang,
We know of "Schwarze 7", seen at Hildesheim thanks to this photo offered on eBay 11 June 2018: https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7687193053794/ Two new photos of "Schwarze 7" are on offer currently. The skin damage pattern ascertains this is indeed the same machine, as found at Fl.Pl. Hildesheim: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...2/274531706474 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...9/274531704978 Though quite frustrating as no W.Nr. can be seen, we have IMHO an Erla built Bf 109 G-14 sporting a camouflage pattern seen on the W.Nr. 463xxx - 464xxx block. The Technical intelligence Report no A-371 dated 7 May 1945 reports 48 airframes at Fl.Pl. Hildesheim, inspected 29 April 1945. Among them are five Erla built Bf 109 G-14's: - W.Nr. 463178 - W.Nr. 464062 - W.Nr. 464248 - W.Nr. 464266 - W.Nr. 464337 As no tactical markings were recorded, there is no way knowing which machine is seen on those three photos, alas. As for the unit, 6./, 7./ and 8./JG 105 were all based at Hildesheim until disbanded 15 March 1945. There is thus a reasonable assumption "Schwarze 7" with its II Gruppe bar is a 6./JG 105 plane. |
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Thanks to new evidences brought to my attention by Mato Lion,
We now know conclusively the above mentioned plane is actually Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 150853 "Schwarze 7". Cheers Marc |
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Report A-371 cited by Michael Balss says a G-10, WNr.150853 was found at Fl.Pl. Hildesheim. That's all.
All Gustav of JG105 accidented at this place belonged to 7. Staffel. On 4/02/1945 II./JG105 was transfered to Stab JG103 and disbanded on 15/03/1945. Last, I'm not convinced II./JG105 got Bf 109 G-10s ... But why not? Regards, Franck. |
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Hi there Franck,
Indeed, the G-10 trail seems to be a cold one as revealed by another photo made by Charlie Lewett, RAF, in 1945. This other photo does reveal a left rear-engine curved panel... An Mtt built Bf 109 G-14/AS makes more sense from all those features - though we don't have any registered at Hildesheim. As for the parent unit, I concur about 7./JG 105 losses, to which we can add also two 8./JG 105 losses whilst based at Hildesheim, W.Nr. 464264 on 16 Feb. 45 and W.Nr. 412667 on 19 Feb 45. Cheers Marc |
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Thanks to Spektor, over on modelforum.cz, today's mystery, at least for me: this photo of an utterly wrecked Bf 109 G or K is said to have been photographed 14 February 1945 at Holbaek, Denmark.
https://samlinger.natmus.dk/FHM/asset/199302 https://samlinger.natmus.dk/FHM/asset/199303 After having checked flensted.eu, there is no known loss that day. Any hint would be highly appreciated Cheers Marc |
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