Ju 88D-1 W.Nr 430645 "F6+NL" of 3(F)/123

[George 118]

Hello,
On 3 July, 1943 Ju 88D-1 W.Nr 430645 "F6+NL" of 3.(F)/123 failed to return from a night reconnaissance mission in the area between Eastbourne and the Isle of Wight.

It was the victim of S/L Chisholm of Fighter Interception Unit ?

Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

[Karoband]

Hello,

The original losses are found online in the Bundesarchiv in file RL 2-III/1191 on page 196.

If you log in and use the search feature on this forum for "430645" it will give further info in thread # 480288.

There were two Ju 88 D-1s of 3.(F)/122 crewed by 3.(F)/123 missing that night.

Jim

[Chris Goss]

Two lost between Eastbourne and Isle of Wight but only the one claim

[Brian Bines]

W/C Chisholms combat report shows the weather as haze up to 4000 ft. and clear above . He was at 3000 ft. when Blackgang control told him to reduce height as quickly as possible and vectored him onto a low flying bandit his contact was difficult due to getting sea returns . Blackgang handed him over to Beachy control who gave a vector onto the same? bandit . He then obtained contact on another bandit which he eventually shot down seeing it hit the water and explode giving his height as between 200 and 300 ft. So it would appear Chisholm had contact with both missing aircraft with one likely hitting the sea due to operating at low level in hazy conditions and the one he shot down .
Both of the German crews are shown as missing with the Bs of F6+OL Uffz Paul Preys ( Preis in other sources) being changed from missing to dead in GQM dated 20.5.1944 . Could not find a grave record for him so possibly just a recognition at the request of a relative that he was officially dead ?

[Matti Salonen]

I have a note that Uffz Paul Preis was "tot angeschwemmt 08 Sept 1943 am Strande von Quend-Plage".
Originally buried 09.09.1943 at 14.30 in "Ehrenfriedhof Abbeville/Somme. Grab 10".

Matti

[George 118]

Thank you for being so helpful.
Great informations !

Regards George

[Brian Bines]

Matti , thanks for that now found him on the Grabesuche site showing death/missing date as 08.09.1943 and now buried at Bourdon block 32 row 12 grave 469 . Gives his date of birth as 26.07.1913 at Bidesbach ,

Regards
Brian Bines

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen

I have a note that Uffz Paul Preis was "tot angeschwemmt 08 Sept 1943 am Strande von Quend-Plage".
Originally buried 09.09.1943 at 14.30 in "Ehrenfriedhof Abbeville/Somme. Grab 10".

Matti

That fits with the registration card here: https://www.fold3.com/image/699655693?terms=paul,preis

(I had to look up Quend — it is on the stretch of coast between Le Touquet and Saint-Valery-sur-Somme).

[Nick Beale]

The Bletchley Park Naval Section summaries of Y-Service and ULTRA intelligence say that (times GMT+2):

"To East Anglian Coast": On 2/3 July aircraft +HL took off at 23.05, landed 00.06; F6+AL took off 0116, landed 0252; F6+OL airborne 00.28, plotted 00.52, called without result 03.36–04.17.

Then:

Eastern Channel

Briefing: 1 aircraft to take off at 01.00 to fly out through 05 East 0054 – 15 West 2167 – 1134 – 1146 – 05 East 0158 – 15 West 1167.

F6+NL was airborne at 0059/3, reported fighters at 0135/3 and was plotted at this time in 50º 20' N, 02º 10' W., was intercepted by a Mosquito up from Ford at 0100/3 when 65 miles South of Bognor on E–W course, flying at 1,000 feet, was attacked at close range flying at 200 feet and shot down 25 miles S of Bognor.

G/S [ground station] signalled warnings of fighters in 05 East 1239 at 2330; 05 East 1242 and 1242 at 23.41; 05 East 1127 at 01.28; 15 West 2158 at 01.54.

Source: TNA HW 13/36 "German Naval Air Activity Vol. X (1 Jul–30 Sep 1943)"

[Brian Bines]

Cheers Nick , W/C Chisholm combat report gives time of attack as approx 0215 hrs 45 miles south of Bognor

Regards
brian Bines