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Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
Hello,
looking especially for two Losses from 4. Staffel/Zerstörerschule Wunstorf Airfield in Month May 1942 On 23. May 1942 Uffz. Karl Notjung lost his Life due to Mid Air Collision with AR68 between Wunstorf and Nienburg / Linsburg Area. just six Days later... 29. May 1942, Gefreiter Dieter Hauff (FF) and Gefreiter Klaus Asbahr (BF) AR 96, died in the accident near Rethem / Aller. Who can support with the GQM and especilly the NVM for this cases.... Best Regards, streak98 |
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Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
I have:
1942-05-23, 4./Zerstörerschule 2, Ar 68 E, 1937, PF+LM, Forst Grinderwald, südöstlich Linsburg, 10 km südöstlich Nienburg (Weser) Zerstörerschüler Uffz Notjung, Karl, + Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit Ar 68, Werk.-Nr. 1967, DB+JC. Bruch 100 %. 1942-05-23, Zerstörerschule 2, Ar 68 E, 1967, DB+JC, Borstel, 10 km nordwestlich Neustadt am Rübenberge, 30 km nordwestlich Hannover Flugzeugführer mit Fallschirm abgesprungen. Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit Ar 68, Werk.-Nr. 9137, PF+LM. Bruch 100 %. 1942-05-29, 4./Zerstörerschule 2, Ar 96 B-1, 4176, 2 km östlich Rethen, 11 km südöstlich Hannover/Aller Zerstörerschüler Gefr Hauff, Diether, + Bordfunkerschüler Gefr Asbahr, Klaus, + Absturz infolge Motorstörung. Bruch 100 %. Matti |
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Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
Matti
Something is not quite Koscher here You list Ar 68 WNr 1937 PF+LM on 23 May 1942, and Ar 68 WNr 9137 PF+LM on 29 May 1942 Since WNr 9137 is out of the question I would say WNr 1937 is correct, but I cannot really see Uffz Karl Notjung being KIFA on the 23rd and the aircraft being destroyed once more on the 29th. Any idea? B Rgds Stig |
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Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
I think it's only a format error, read it this way:
1942-05-23, Zerstörerschule 2, Ar 68 E, 1967, DB+JC, Borstel, 10 km nordwestlich Neustadt am Rübenberge, 30 km nordwestlich Hannover Flugzeugführer mit Fallschirm abgesprungen. Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit Ar 68, Werk.-Nr. 9137, PF+LM. Bruch 100 %. 1942-05-29, 4./Zerstörerschule 2, Ar 96 B-1, 4176, 2 km östlich Rethen, 11 km südöstlich Hannover/Aller Zerstörerschüler Gefr Hauff, Diether, + Bordfunkerschüler Gefr Asbahr, Klaus, + Absturz infolge Motorstörung. Bruch 100 %.
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Best regards Gerhard Stemmer |
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Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
Sorry, my computer and clumsy fingers did it again. As Gerhard said, a format error but also a wrong WNr. PF+LM was not 9137 but 1937.
Matti |
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Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
Gentlemen
Thanks for the clarification Matti, you are excused. Compared to Gerhard in sunny Germany we all have to remember our freezing winter up north. ![]() Gloves on!! ![]() Cheers Stig |
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Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
Hello Matti,
Thank you very, very much for the information about the losses.... where would we be here in the forum without you... I think I can only say "Thank you for your help" again on behalf of many people here. ... streak98 (Dirk) PS: also to Stig and Merlin !!! |
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Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
Hi
Rethen is not on the river Aller, but Rethem is it (50km NNW Hanover). According to Ancestry, the FF's name is Hanff. best wishes JoMe |
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Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
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Since we are also given a second place indicator (11 km SE Hannover) I think it is Aller which is wrong and thus Rethen and not Rethem which is correct.... Cheers Stig |
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Re: Losses 4. / Zerstörerschule 2 Wunstorf (Memmingen)
Hi Stig
According to Ancestry, Dieter Hanff died near Rothen an der Aller, Klaus Asbahr's died place is 2km O Retthen/Aller. I have a connection to the Aller River here, so I believe that my location is correct. best wishes JoMe |
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