Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Allied and Soviet Air Forces

Allied and Soviet Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the Air Forces of the Western Allies and the Soviet Union.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12th March 2024, 10:54
Flupke's Avatar
Flupke Flupke is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 371
Flupke is on a distinguished road
B-17 Wesel

Hello to all
I would like to know the serial number of a B-17 loss the 24/3/1945nearby Wesel , this aircraft was from 313TCG 29TCS the pilot was Lt Col Baldwin Benton R."Lucky"(RTD)
Part of the crew was T/Sgt Pearce Clarence A. (KIA)38332062---Hottelet Richard C. (RTD)(War Cor CBS )---Sgt Quandt Fred W. (RTD) (War Phot CBS) she was used by the Troop carrier unit carried photograps and reporters , the crew B/O but the pilot had made a belly landing !
Regards
Phil
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12th March 2024, 14:16
RSwank RSwank is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Bloomington, IN USA
Posts: 2,048
RSwank is on a distinguished road
Re: B-17 Wesel

This link has the story of Lt Col Benton R Baldwin:

https://dmairfield.org/Collections/B...ion/index.html

There is even a photo of the crashed B-17, unfortunately the serial number is not quite readable.

There does not appear to have been a MACR or Accident Report written for the loss.

Richard C Hottelet's Collier's article on the event:

http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/L...ticle-1945-pdf



There are a couple of photos on fold3.com:


https://www.fold3.com/image/29024235...o-reconnaissan

https://www.fold3.com/image/29024239...o-reconnaissan


https://www.fold3.com/image/32018457...benton,baldwin

https://www.fold3.com/image/32018458...-the-legion-of

Last edited by RSwank; 12th March 2024 at 23:09.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 16th March 2024, 10:35
Flupke's Avatar
Flupke Flupke is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 371
Flupke is on a distinguished road
Re: B-17 Wesel

Many thanks
Regards
Phil
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 18th March 2024, 18:06
Leendert Leendert is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 2,785
Leendert will become famous soon enough
Re: B-17 Wesel

B-17G 44-8768 is listed as MIA on 240345 with unit designation "9 TR CARR CMD". All other B-17 (combat) losses that month carry a BG number... Salvaged 060445.

Regards,
Leendert
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 18th March 2024, 18:56
Leendert Leendert is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 2,785
Leendert will become famous soon enough
Re: B-17 Wesel

Found some additional info in a IX Troop Carrier Command narrative (Reel C5015):

Shot down by Ack-Ack
The Fortress, which carried Hottelet and eleven military personnel, including cameramen, Public Relations and other staff members, was shot down by anti-aircraft and all passengers except the pilot, Lt Col Benton R. Baldwin, (were) forced to bail out. Colonel Baldwin escaped injury when he made a successful belly landing, with his left wing on fire.
Technical Sergeant Clarence E. Pearce, Command Public Relations correspondent, was killed when his chute failed to open properly. He was with Headquarters and Headquarters Squadron, IX Troop Carrier Command. The other correspondents, Robert Wilson and Captain Freidheim, also were forced to jump from the flak-ridden aircraft, but returned from the mission".


In a reporters list just above this summary, Wilson (Associated Press) and Capt. Eric Freidheim (Air Force Magazine) are mentioned to be with (or 'embedded' in today's language?) with 313 TCG, hence perhaps the association of the B-17 loss with this TCG?

Regards,
Leendert
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 19th March 2024, 15:14
Leendert Leendert is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 2,785
Leendert will become famous soon enough
Re: B-17 Wesel

Perhaps also interesting, this clipping: https://www.newspapers.com/article/t...eview/5685347/

Regards,
Leendert
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 24th March 2024, 15:24
Flupke's Avatar
Flupke Flupke is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 371
Flupke is on a distinguished road
Re: B-17 Wesel

Thanks a lot Leendert , This serial is most probably the good one !
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
In hindsight, who was the top day scorer? Broncazonk Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 59 18th June 2021 10:01
German overclaims in the East. Hartmann and others... Nikita Egorov Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 232 31st January 2020 04:21
Peter Duttmann 13,11.44 claims GMichalski Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 32 23rd December 2019 21:57
9 December 1943 - YAK 1 loss (Lipfert's 74th victory) Adriano Baumgartner Allied and Soviet Air Forces 29 20th June 2018 22:09
[Study] November 23, 1939 : Luftwaffe losses / crash sites over France (I need your help !) DIscotraxxx Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 18 21st October 2013 23:49


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 21:29.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net