Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Japanese and Allied Air Forces in the Far East

Japanese and Allied Air Forces in the Far East Please use this forum to discuss the Air War in the Far East.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 13th June 2024, 09:18
Leendert Leendert is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 2,787
Leendert will become famous soon enough
Re: Lt. Col. Frederick G. Terry - KIA 24 Jun 1944 - Saipan

Referring to above thread from 2022/23, I now read an online newspaper clipping (The Spokesman-Review, July 16, 1944) in which the 'friendly bomber' with which the Cub-like type (L-3?) reportedly had collided is identified as a Grumman Avenger. This a/c could land safely.
Type may very well be the case, since some of these were stationed at Saipan on day of accident. Will have to find out what USN squadron had TBM/TBFs on the island.
Still, name of (also) killed Army pilot still a mystery.

Regards,
Leendert
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 13th June 2024, 21:07
twocee twocee is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 399
twocee is on a distinguished road
Re: Lt. Col. Frederick G. Terry - KIA 24 Jun 1944 - Saipan

I think that the TBM-1C involved was BuNo 25718, assigned to VC4 aboard White Plains. While circling enemy positions at 1700' on an artillery spotting mission it collided with an Army L-4. The fuselage of the latter was severed and it crashed, killing the occupants. The left wing of the TBM suffered minor damage. Incidentally, blame was assigned 80% L-4 pilot/20% TBM pilot.
__________________
George Kernahan
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 14th June 2024, 19:22
Leendert Leendert is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 2,787
Leendert will become famous soon enough
Re: Lt. Col. Frederick G. Terry - KIA 24 Jun 1944 - Saipan

Thanks, George, good find! War Diaries of USS White Plains and what's available online of VC-4 apparently do not mention the incident, at least on first glance.

What's still puzzling me is the anonymity and/or unit of the pilot of the Cub-type a/c.

Lt Col Frederick Terry is not in the lists of killed personnel on Saipan: https://nps.gov/amme/learn/historycu...t-of-honor.htm

Regards, Leendert
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 16th June 2024, 18:39
RSwank RSwank is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Bloomington, IN USA
Posts: 2,050
RSwank is on a distinguished road
Re: Lt. Col. Frederick G. Terry - KIA 24 Jun 1944 - Saipan

A possible? name of the liaison pilot. In your link to personnel killed, in the section for
106 FA BN 155 MMH is listed Sandburg, George M., 1st Lt .

In findagrave for him it mentions he was a liaison pilot. Note the date of death is not given as June 24, so maybe not the right guy but perhaps the right unit.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...rge-m-sandburg


https://images.findagrave.com/photos...84fa1d76e.jpeg
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 16th June 2024, 23:48
RSwank RSwank is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Bloomington, IN USA
Posts: 2,050
RSwank is on a distinguished road
Re: Lt. Col. Frederick G. Terry - KIA 24 Jun 1944 - Saipan

I found another Liaison pilot, listed in the section on the link you gave titled Organization Not Recorded, James W O'Neil. Here is a clipping on how he died:

https://www.newspapers.com/image/314...g_id=122731551
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 3rd September 2024, 09:30
Leendert Leendert is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 2,787
Leendert will become famous soon enough
Re: Lt. Col. Frederick G. Terry - KIA 24 Jun 1944 - Saipan

Long search can be closed. Liaison pilot was Lt George C. Essick Jr. (O-1173599), attached to HQ XXIV Corps from 77th DIVARTY.

TBM was piloted by Lt. Walter P. Owens. Written description of collision here: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/4033...ect-thumb--791

Regards,

Leendert
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Friendly fire WWII Brian Allied and Soviet Air Forces 803 8th July 2023 16:47
Moelders vs Galland vs Wick Nick Hector Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 26 3rd November 2018 14:26
List of the Legion condor pilots martin66 Pre-WW2 Military and Naval Aviation 15 29th December 2016 13:41
Ju188 lost in France Eric Larger Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 16 16th December 2011 00:47
Luftwaffe Aces KIA in Normandy in 1944 Christer Bergström Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 35 13th August 2005 22:10


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 17:40.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net