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Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
To Merlin:
You say that there were no Ar 66 between W.Nr. 1198 and 1801. In fact, there were at least two series of Werk Nummern, one in the 1200 series and one in the 1400 series. I have from aircraft repair reports at least between 60 and 70 W.Nummer that prove this. They are reports in the RL 3 documents series from Bundesarchiv-Militärarchiv. Again I urge you to quote what sources you are using. The W.Nr. 1244 is absolutely valid. This aircraft arrived at Hans Klemm Flugzeugbau in Böblingen on 17.09.1937 and spent 86 days there for repairs. |
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Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
Sorry for the confusion triggered by my last post.
There were indeed Ar 66 in this number range. They were build by AGO from autumn 1935 to spring 1936 and were officially delivered as 2/1201 to 2/1258 and 2/1399 to 2/1450. WNr. 2/1244 has had the registration AC+AH (I know this is far outside any rules but it's confirmed by several Flugbuch entries and photos). The last owner according to my files was I./FAG 101 at Großenhain in May 1944.
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Best regards Gerhard Stemmer |
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Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
We have at last found the orginal WrkNr on the airframe we are restoring. During a test of the compleat wing set restord at Kjevik monted on the airframe. At this ocation there was found to be painted a WrkNr on the rudderpedals in the rear cocpit. These where dismantled from the airframe and have been lost until now. Se my flickr acount. This means we need info on the real WrkNr 1034.
Regards Ernst |
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Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
Found to more WrkNr on tail parts recived from Bodø, any aditional info ?
WrkNr 1194 and 234 Regards Ernst |
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Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
Replay from Tom Willis at the LRG forum
Ar66C. I can add additional data. Ar66C - WNr 234 - D-IGEL - Est Rechlin - 1935 & Est Travemunde - 07.36. FFS(See)Putnitz - 07.38 at Putnitz (Fb.Hertnagel) Ar66C - WNr 1194 - No Unit/markings but the W/Nr 1194 was picked up by the Allied 'Y' Service radio intercepts dated 21.10.44 at Stade. So WrkNr 1194 is may be from another Unit in europe with different equipment / trainer ? |
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Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
New summary: Wrk.Nr found on Ar66 Parts/Airframes fra Bardufoss
Ar66C WNr.0767 D-INUI. Fliegerübungsstelle Schönwalde 08.35 - 12.36 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Fliegerschule Halberstadt 06.38 - 09.38 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Erg.Btl. 31 at Brandis 09.39 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Verbindungsstaffel 58 30% damage at Biala Podlaska on 29.06.41 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Under repair at Basser company Berlin 03.42 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] 27.11.44 is 3./NSGr8 on Bardufoss. Ended up at Bardufoss as wrecks from Nachtschlacht Gruppe 8 There exists a foto taken at bardufoss showing airframes with codes 6J+VL and 6J+QL, if our is one of this we dont know. We have 2 data plates for this airfarme One from Arado Flugzeug Werke (1935), the other from G. Basser K.G. Zwickau Sa.(Mars 42). The last one is proably from a repair. Both have Werk Nr : 767. Ar66C - WNr 234 - D-IGEL - Est Rechlin - 1935 & Est Travemunde - 07.36. FFS(See)Putnitz - 07.38 at Putnitz (Fb.Hertnagel) Ar66C WNr. 0410 D-IPES PJ+A? The Z insted of a P relay on that FFS(A/B)14 until June 1942 and RO+AZ after service with A/B 14 ( 410 insted of stf insignia ) Ar66C WNr. 0551 D-IKYH. Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH - manufactured May 1935, Arado Flugzeugwerke GmbH, Warnemünde, Germany [sources: Flugzeug Übernahme 1934-1936; [Tom Willis; Jörg Meincke; LEMB] Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH Fliegerschule Böblingen 06/36. [sources: Rasmussen forum.12oclockhigh] Fliegerschule Böblingen 05.35 to 08.37, school moved to Nellingen 09.37 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Fliegerschule Nellingen 09.37 to 02.39 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Ar66c WNr. 1034 Ar66c WNr. 1244 WNr. 2/1244 has had the registration AC+AH (I know this is far outside any rules but it's confirmed by several Flugbuch entries and photos). The last owner according to my files was I./FAG 101 at Großenhain in May 1944 Ar66c WNr. 2170 Ar66C WNr. 2127. Ar66C - WNr.2127 - manufactured 1936, AGO Flugzeugwerke GmbH, Oschersleben, Germany [source: Tom Willis] Found som more Wrk.Nr`s we need info on: Ar66c Wrk.nr 30, found on a front engine cowling part Ar66C Wrk.Nr 416 Ar66C Wrk.Nr 470 We also got the last airframe from Bodø, salvaged from Sør varanger Finnmark Ar66C Wrk.Nr 850, found on multple parts including fairing on the tail section. Tanks in advance Ernst |
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Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
New summary: Wrk.Nr found on Ar66 Parts/Airframes fra Bardufoss
Ar66C WNr.0767 D-INUI. Fliegerübungsstelle Schönwalde 08.35 - 12.36 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Fliegerschule Halberstadt 06.38 - 09.38 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Erg.Btl. 31 at Brandis 09.39 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Verbindungsstaffel 58 30% damage at Biala Podlaska on 29.06.41 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Under repair at Basser company Berlin 03.42 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] 27.11.44 is 3./NSGr8 on Bardufoss. Ended up at Bardufoss as wrecks from Nachtschlacht Gruppe 8 There exists a foto taken at bardufoss showing airframes with codes 6J+VL and 6J+QL, if our is one of this we dont know. We have 2 data plates for this airfarme One from Arado Flugzeug Werke (1935), the other from G. Basser K.G. Zwickau Sa.(Mars 42). The last one is proably from a repair. Both have Werk Nr : 767. Ar66C - WNr 234 - D-IGEL - Est Rechlin - 1935 & Est Travemunde - 07.36. FFS(See)Putnitz - 07.38 at Putnitz (Fb.Hertnagel) Ar66C WNr. 0410 D-IPES PJ+A? The Z insted of a P relay on that FFS(A/B)14 until June 1942 and RO+AZ after service with A/B 14 ( 410 insted of stf insignia ) Ar66C WNr. 0551 D-IKYH. Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH - manufactured May 1935, Arado Flugzeugwerke GmbH, Warnemünde, Germany [sources: Flugzeug Übernahme 1934-1936; [Tom Willis; Jörg Meincke; LEMB] Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH Fliegerschule Böblingen 06/36. [sources: Rasmussen forum.12oclockhigh] Fliegerschule Böblingen 05.35 to 08.37, school moved to Nellingen 09.37 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Fliegerschule Nellingen 09.37 to 02.39 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh] Ar66c WNr. 1034 Ar66c WNr. 1244 WNr. 2/1244 has had the registration AC+AH (I know this is far outside any rules but it's confirmed by several Flugbuch entries and photos). The last owner according to my files was I./FAG 101 at Großenhain in May 1944 Ar66c WNr. 2170 Ar66C WNr. 2127. Ar66C - WNr.2127 - manufactured 1936, AGO Flugzeugwerke GmbH, Oschersleben, Germany [source: Tom Willis] Found som more Wrk.Nr`s we need info on: Ar66c Wrk.nr 30, found on a front engine cowling part Ar66C Wrk.Nr 416 Ar66C Wrk.Nr 470 We found 3 more Wnr on parts arriving from Bodø Ar66c Wrk.Nr 19 Ar66c Wrk.Nr 41 Ar66c Wrk.nr 52 Any more info on these? We also got the last airframe from Bodø, salvaged from Sør varanger Finnmark Ar66C Wrk.Nr 850, found on multple parts including fairing on the tail section. Tanks in advance Ernst |
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