Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Allied and Soviet Air Forces

Allied and Soviet Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the Air Forces of the Western Allies and the Soviet Union.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #3171  
Old 31st October 2024, 21:46
edwest2 edwest2 is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 7,860
edwest2 will become famous soon enoughedwest2 will become famous soon enough
Re: eBay: Allied intrest

Thanks Andy.
Reply With Quote
  #3174  
Old 31st October 2024, 23:57
marco392 marco392 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 64
marco392 is on a distinguished road
Re: eBay: Allied intrest

Ed,

#3172-1 and 2 - it is Hurricane P2619 of 607 Sqn

Cheers,
Mariusz
Reply With Quote
  #3175  
Old 1st November 2024, 18:57
edwest2 edwest2 is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 7,860
edwest2 will become famous soon enoughedwest2 will become famous soon enough
Re: eBay: Allied intrest

Thank you Mariusz.
Reply With Quote
  #3176  
Old 1st November 2024, 21:54
edwest2 edwest2 is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 7,860
edwest2 will become famous soon enoughedwest2 will become famous soon enough
Re: eBay: Allied intrest

https://www.ebay.de/itm/267048721930...Bk9SR5jikpTdZA
Reply With Quote
  #3177  
Old 2nd November 2024, 12:14
AndyMa AndyMa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Lincoln UK
Posts: 439
AndyMa is on a distinguished road
Re: eBay: Allied intrest

Hurricane P3732, which was lost in Greece.
There seems to be confusion about the circumstances of its loss.
According to AIR81/6133: https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C16755431
it was shot down on 15 April 1941.
Reply With Quote
  #3178  
Old 2nd November 2024, 13:42
Buckeye30's Avatar
Buckeye30 Buckeye30 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bedford, England
Posts: 823
Buckeye30 is on a distinguished road
Re: eBay: Allied intrest

Hi Andy. A mystery, a Greek archaeology association says the pilot F/L J F Mackie (Canadian) was shot down in either P3732 or V7419 on the 15th. but the latter was most likely P/O Chetham as per National Archives. Both pilots were certainly killed (JG77); the wrecks were found near Larissa by the river Pinelos. A 33 Sqn. erk records the 2 pilots were "Chatham" and "Jackie", obviously mis-spelt. The aircraft in the German photo (including P3732 and some Greek) were lost to "strafing in the South-East area". Would you agree that Mackie was shot down in another ?

By 18 May the ORB states " all our remaining machines having been wrecked by strafing or shot down".
Regards
Nick
Incidentally Hobby Master do a model of V7419 supposedly flown by Pattle in April.

Last edited by Buckeye30; 2nd November 2024 at 13:46. Reason: Spelling
Reply With Quote
  #3179  
Old 2nd November 2024, 15:13
Stig Jarlevik Stig Jarlevik is online now
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,023
Stig Jarlevik will become famous soon enoughStig Jarlevik will become famous soon enough
Re: eBay: Allied intrest

Reading Air War for Yugoslavia, Greece and Crete 1940-41 the three authors says regarding the losses

"Lt Jacob Arnoldy obtained hits on Charles Chetham's aircraft. Onlookers saw the latter come down in a
seemingly controlled glide and disappear behind some trees outside the airfield boundary; he was in fact
killed"
.

Mackie then shot down Arnoldy and then "Fw Otto Köhler engaged him from astern. The Hurricane
flipped over, caught fire and exploded on crashing, killing the Canadian pilot."


What about if we change the two aircraft?
Mackie lost in V7419 and Chetham in P3732?

It is perhaps even more possible that P3732 was among the many Hurricanes DBR by strafing 109s
at Larissa (33Sq's base) later during the same day.
Looking at the picture the cockpit looks intact, aircraft has its wheels down etc very much looking
like an aircraft which has been damaged on the ground....

B Rgds
Stig
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
eBay: Allied intrest Snautzer Japanese and Allied Air Forces in the Far East 102 28th April 2020 13:44
eBay: Allied intrest Snautzer Allied and Soviet Air Forces 3 7th October 2017 21:47
Ebay picture searches. Why only Luftwaffe related intrest? Snautzer General 7 21st September 2017 12:57
Allied bomber crew photo with names - eBay edwest Allied and Soviet Air Forces 0 10th November 2012 23:40
ebay Deutschland Hawk-Eye Off Topic 1 12th March 2005 14:43


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 15:17.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net