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Old 4th June 2007, 06:25
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Re: P-51s vs FW-190s on 20/1/45 N. of Regensburg

Just for the heck of it, I thought I would post what Art's combat reports state about time and location.

June 24, 1944, 0950 hours, Ploesti, Me-109 prob
June 28, 1944, 1005 hours, Bucharest, Me-109
June 28, 1944, 1012 hours, Bucharest, Me-109
July 9, 1944, 1015 hours, 10 m S of Ploesti, Me-109
July 26, 1944, 1115 hours, S of Vienna, FW-190
July 26, 1944, 1135 hours, 30-40 m S of Lake Balaton, Me-109
Sept 15, 1944, 0920 hours, Megara A/D (Greece), Ju-52
Oct 12, 1944, 1420 hours, Coskvar (?) A/D (Hungary), He-111
Jan 20, 1945, 1300 hours, N of Regensburg, FW-190

In all but one case he was flying a P-51 coded 35 (but see his earlier post about his aircraft). The exception is Oct 12, when he flew #11 (see Art's post below).

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Old 4th June 2007, 19:12
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Re: P-51s vs FW-190s on 20/1/45 N. of Regensburg

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In addition, because of this forum, I have looked more carefully at my encounter reports and my Form 5. They are often incorrect. My probable victory on 24 June was over Jugoslavia but Intelligence wrote it up that I was over Ploesti and in a flight of four! I never got to Roumania and was all alone when I encountered the 109s. I hope the info in my Form 5 (flight record) is more accurate. I know how the problems occurred. At mission debriefing, they took notes which sometimes were not transcribed for a week or more. Since we never saw the reports, we did not have an opportunity to correct them. I wished now that I had insisted on seeing them.
This is a very important statement and I would appreciate if you could point out all the mistakes in Encounter Reports. Also, I am very interested what kind of paperwork you had to file from the morning till the night - I mean here reception of an aircraft, log book entry or whatever.
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Old 1st June 2007, 16:12
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Re: P-51s vs FW-190s on 20/1/45 N. of Regensburg

Sorry: I meant the OTHER claims are certainly NOT from JG 53. ( digited wrongly....)
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Old 2nd June 2007, 00:41
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Re: P-51s vs FW-190s on 20/1/45 N. of Regensburg

Sorry: the account of 9th July was of Major JÜRGEN Harder ( digited wrongly again...) who was Gruppenkommandeur ( killed later on february 1945 - 64 victories, Oakleaves winner ).
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Old 3rd June 2007, 04:05
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Re: P-51s vs FW-190s on 20/1/45 N. of Regensburg

Art :

I am curious were you flying your P-51D "Helen" # 35 on the July 44 mission with JG 300 or a B model ? Also probably pretty obvious you were flying a D on the operation with JG 301 Fw 190's ?

will send you a private soon on the mission facing JG 300.

also who came up with the idea for your squadron patch ?

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Old 4th June 2007, 15:55
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Re: P-51s vs FW-190s on 20/1/45 N. of Regensburg

Art,
Could you post your Combat reports as you suggested? Yes, it would be very nice to read them and compare with the German side.
Frank, thanks for adding more details of Sir Art Fiedler to the forum; principally the HOUR of combat flights and place. It would be easier now to cross-check Luftwaffe files and losses.
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