Late war Bf 109 pictures source

[Primoz]

It must be a G, not a K. The jacking hole is in the "usual" position, while the K version had it farther forward and a little bit higher.

[ouidjat]

That G-6/R6, SJ+VT.
Look under fuselage. Not France and not JG3, as far I know. Most probably a Night Fighter ...
And check JG300 by JYL to get the equivalent ...


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Ja...cAAOSwj0tfpY8v

[ouidjat]

This one too - which is not SJ+VT or "they" put a tank under belly ...
Anyway, it has a flamedamper over exhaust, obviously a night fighter. Same comment than above.


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Ja...YAAOSwSpNfpX9s

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

That G-6/R6, SJ+VT.
Look under fuselage. Not France and not JG3, as far I know. Most probably a Night Fighter ...
And check JG300 by JYL to get the equivalent ...


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Ja...cAAOSwj0tfpY8v

Thanks for your lead, Franck. Yup, as for the location, we have one clue for Germany: Ju 88 W.Nr. 1530 V43 "RF+IQ" was one of the Ju 188 A testbeds at E-Stelle Rechlin in 1943. Some other photos were taken there, maybe also the 109's...

Am off for my JYL

Cheers
Marc

[Peter Achs]

The Ju 188 V43 was used by Rechlin for endurance testing of the BMW 801 and served as a travel aircraft in Rechlin. This 188 flew on all fronts, so the photos could have been taken anywhere.

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

This one too - which is not SJ+VT or "they" put a tank under belly ...
Anyway, it has a flamedamper over exhaust, obviously a night fighter. Same comment than above.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Ja...YAAOSwSpNfpX9s

Again, note the whistle on first exhaust pipe !
BTW if you really need a night fighter unit in France, 1944, with such machines then I./JG301 was based at St. Dizier and Epinoy from 12/6/1944 to 26/8/1944.
...

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by Peter Achs

The Ju 188 V43 was used by Rechlin for endurance testing of the BMW 801 and served as a travel aircraft in Rechlin. This 188 flew on all fronts, so the photos could have been taken anywhere.

Thanks Peter for this cautionary remark. Much appreciated.

Cheers
Marc

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by ouidjat

Again, note the whistle on first exhaust pipe !
BTW if you really need a night fighter unit in France, 1944, with such machines then I./JG301 was based at St. Dizier and Epinoy from 12/6/1944 to 26/8/1944.
...

Franck, thanks again. No need for me to have those photos in France.

As a possible further development, we have also a Bf 109 G-12 with partial STKz "SV+??" photographed with Uffz. Giese, 1./JG 107, based at Pau during Summer 1944 published in Prien and Rodeike 1995, p. 143.

Cheers
Marc

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Franck, thanks again. No need for me to have those photos in France.

As a possible further development, we have also a Bf 109 G-12 with partial STKz "SV+??" photographed with Uffz. Giese, 1./JG 107, based at Pau during Summer 1944 published in Prien and Rodeike 1995, p. 143.

Cheers
Marc

Hello,
The G-12 had the partial StKz "SJ+??" ...
Anyway when I wrote "You" I meant "You all" not only Marc.
Next, amazingly Stab JG301 was based at .... Rechlin ! Funny isn't it ? Yet, we don't know when the said Wolfgang died.
Last - talking about further and/or possible development(s) - the picture published by JYL in Vol 1, page 171 show us a former JG54 machine, with the famous FuBi 2 under fuselage - and the whistle - taken at Jüterbog (Wadlager) in June 1944. The caption says III./JG54 did loan its machines to II./JG302 till early 1944.
II./JG302 didn't have it's own machine and shared those used by I./JG11 and III./JG54. Disbanded in June 1944, all crews being transfered to III./JG300 ...
Here we are. Since we don't know when the pic has been taken ...


Regards,
Franck.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hi there Gang,

Today's finds are a real Christmas gift: we have three more photos taken in late 1945 from the II./JG 52 and 101 Vadaszezred planes surrendered 8 May 1945 at Fl.Pl. Neubieberg, near Munich.

Two are particularly interesting.

The first does show Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 61. ... "Gelbe 11" "Gigi", 7./JG 52. This unique WNF built Bf 109 G-10 has an old metal tailplane fitted to its airframe, a makeshift repair to keep it flying. to my knowledge, this is the only right side photo known of this peculiar plane:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...YAAOSwRIJf2ugQ

The second photo is also the only known to me photo of the right side of WNF built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 613 165 "Fekete 16", 101 Vadaszsezred:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...4AAOSwnGlf2uej

The third photo does show another Bf 109 G-10 taken at the same - frosty - time and location:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...YAAOSwpE5f2uZz

Cheers
Marc