Photo Nieuport

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay are two photos of Nieuport 21 E1 N.6986


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/145996962429...Bk9SR-iY2KO2ZA


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/145996962811...Bk9SR-iY2KO2ZA



Regards,


Clint

[Buckeye30]

Hi Stig. A bit more on Nieuport B1597 courtesy of The Aerodrome; Lt. G D Hunter was shot down (POW) by Kurt Schneider Jasta 5 near Ecourt / St. Quentin (13th victory). Also flown by W M Fry. It was a photo escort and Hunter was re-patriated as wounded on Jan. 1 1918.

Regards
Nick

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Buckeye30

Also flown by W M Fry.
Regards
Nick

Hi Nick
Yes there is a lot of info available on the aircraft
"SFA No 3796 and delivered from Nieuport by Adj de Courcelles 22 April 1917 to 2 AD (engine no T8704JB)
Delivered by Lt W M Fry to 60Sq on 28 April 1917 (It seems it was more or less Fry's standard aircraft)
Fry scored with it on
2 May 1917 (C-type near Vitry)
4 May 1917 (AEG C.V in co-op with Billy Bishop in B1566)
on 6 May 2/Lt Hunter was on an afternoon patrol with t/o at 16.50H and was shot down ca 18.00H

Cheers
Stig

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of the crashed N.1862. Given that some of the areas most easily used to identify Nieuports are damaged and so obscured by the crash and that the range N.18** contains several types of Nieuport can anyone identify the type shown?


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/315749986...Bk9SR5Lr_q-9ZA



Regards,


Clint

[Stig Jarlevik]

A very good question Clint!

Since I am notoriously lousy with these single-engined Nieuports it is not made any easier when
I look at a crashed aircraft....

From memory Nick has much more sharp vision than me when it comes to those types.

I checked my sources (three) and of course N1862 is not mentioned in any.

Those sources are probably just as frustrated as all of us with the rather incredible SFA numbering
system...

For what it is worth, N1861 is listed as a Nieuport 17, so I have for the time being saved it as such.

Cheers
Stig

[musec04]

Hi Stig,


Well hopefully a better view of N.1862 appears in due course. Like yourself I've gone with Nieuport 17 in my records until that happens.


A rather more easily identifiable machine (?) Nieuport 27 5674.



Regards,


Clint

[Buckeye30]

Hi Clint. The Japanese caption at the bottom reads "aircraft flight education 32 square meters" (?), there's a very small 4-digit number in front of the tailplane possibly 1573 but could be just a factory part number.
Nick

[musec04]

Hello Nick,


Thanks for the translation. I'm a bit surprised I must admit. I thought it was a Type 81 (Japanese Ko 1 ), so 23m would have been my expectation.


Regards,


Clint

[Stig Jarlevik]

Clint
Seems to me somebody reversed the digits 23 into 32
Happens all the time, even on TOCH now and then....

Nick
It was quite common for Nieuport to list the SFA number on the rear fuselage.
In this case it is a five digit number, ie in the 10000 range, unfortunately unreadable!

However it means it is a French built aircraft imported into Japan. Pattern or used by a military advisor?

No idea....

Cheers
Stig

[musec04]

Stig,


Any examples of Nieuport 81 specifically with SFA numbers on the rear fuselage of which you are aware?


If Nick is seeing the numerals correctly,and I must admit it looks like 5 numbers to myself,but I don't trust my eyes,, a SFA number 1573* appears quite a bit higher than anything I've seen.


Regards,


Clint