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[lilsis]

Hi

Ltn. z. S. Hans Harald Ipach
Olt. Elmer Blanke

Dornier
Modell : Do 18 G
Stammkennzeichen : RU+AY
Verbandkennzeichen : 8 L+GK
Verband : 2./ Kü.Fl.Gr.906
Werknummer : V 862
Verlustdatum : 1940-03-28
Verlustort : Qu. 3441
Verlustgrund : Totalverlust 100%
Chronik : November 1939 – Fertigung bei Weserflug in Einswarden (JP)
November 1939 – an 2./ Küstenfliegergruppe 906 in Hörnum als 8L+GK (2)
28.03.1940 - Qu. 3441, Notlandung wegen Motorschadens.100% (2)

[Larry Hickey]

lilsis,

Great info! I deeply appreciate your taking the time to answer. This gives us a subtype, W.Nr., and first names and ranks for two of the three people I was seeking. Ipach must be the BO, Blanke the FF, we know the BM, so Rusch must have been the BF, but still lack his rank and first name. Anybody got any further info on him? I've correct my mis-spelling of his name in the original post. It was Rusch, not Rasch.

We're almost there. Besides this info, now all we need is a good photo of 8L+GK. Anybody got a line on that? Just by a wild chance are there any PK photos out there of this crew after they were picked up by U-30? Kind of an interesting story. Is there a good photo of the U-30 out there that would make a good illustration with this story?

[Larry Hickey]

lilsis:

It occurs to me that you might also have info on these 2./KüFlGr906 Do18s that were damaged by bomb splinters during a night attack by Whitleys of No 51 SQ on 19.03.40. All were repairable. Our source is a just completed EoE translation of the unit KTB for March, 1940:
8L+AK, 8L+EK, 8L+GK (you've provided this), 8L+HK, 8L+KK & 8L+MK.

Do you or anybody else have a/c subtypes, W.Nr.s, extent of damage, photos of damaged planes, or any further narrative accounts of this attack?

[lilsis]

.Modell : Do 18 D-3
Verbandkennzeichen : 8 L+EK
Verband : 2./ Kü.Fl.Gr.606, 2./ Kü.Fl.Gr.906
Werknummer : V 815
Verlustdatum : 1940-04-11
Verlustzeit : 08.10 h
Verlustort : Qu. 4545
Verlustgrund : gesunken, 100%
Chronik : September 1938 – Fertigung bei Weserflug in Einswarden (JP)
September 1938 - an 2./ Küstenfliegergruppe 606 in Kamp
25.10.1939 – an 2./ Küstenfliegergruppe 906 in Hörnum als 8L+EK (2)
11.04.1940, 08.10h - Qu. 4545 (Kinnairds Head, Schottland) von brit. Lookheed Hudson angeriffen, Notlandung, gesunken, 100% (1,2)
Schicksal Besatzung : Besatzung in engl. Gefangenschaft:
(FF) Fw. Kurt Hinrichs, (B) Ltn.z.S. Helmut Kühl, (HB) Ufw. Otto Klepzig, (BM) Uffz. Werner Budgereit.

[lilsis]

Modell : Do 18 D-3
Verbandkennzeichen : 8 L+KK
Verband : 2./ Kü.Fl.Gr.606, 2./ Kü.Fl.Gr.906
Werknummer : V 831
Verlustdatum : 1940-04-09
Verlustort : Hörnum
Verlustgrund : Landungsbruch, 100%
Chronik : Januar 1939 – Fertigung bei Weserflug in Einswarden (JP)
Januar 1939 – an 2./ Küstenfliegergruppe 606 in Kamp
25.10.1939 – an 2./ Küstenfliegergruppe 906 in Hörnum als 8L+KK (2)
09.04.1940 - 5 sm südöstl. Hörnum, Bruchlandung durch überschlag, 100% (1,2)
Schicksal Besatzung : † (FF) Uffz. Otto Backhaus, † (Bw) Uffz. August Haupt.
Quellen : Jet&Prop Nr. 5/94, 6/94 (JP)
KTB Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M. (1)
KTB Gen.d.Lw.b.Ob.d.M. O.Qu.(2)

[lilsis]

From the Chronik ship " Hans Rolshoven:
1939:

06.12.
Bergung einer notgelandeten He 59, 8L+ NL, Werknr. 2604 (3./ 906) vor Ameland, bei aufnehmen wurde der St.B. Schwimmer eingedrückt.


Bergung eines Wrack, Do 18 D3, 8L+ FK, Werknr. 811, der 2./ Kü.Fl.Gr. 906 vor Terschelling.

[Frank Olynyk]

Larry,
You might go to http://uboat.net/index.html and post about this question, and ask about photos.

Also, the KTBs of the WW2 U-Boats are in the process of being published. There are 12 or 13 volumes published so far (I have none of them). Volume 1 covered U-1 to U-50, but is out of print I believe. They are also available on microfilm from the National Archives. But someone on UBoat Net can probably look up the incident and see what the KTB says. US submarine patrol reports, and deck logs, usually have details of aircrew that they have picked up.

Enjoy!

Frank.

[Larry Hickey]

Hello,

As a result of the inputs above by "lilsis" we Peter Cornwell has amended our loss entry for the 10.04.40 loss of 8L+KK. To complete this we still need the first name of the BO, Oblt zer See ____ Manke.

"10 April 1940 North Sea Operations: 2./KüFlGr. 906 Dornier Do18D-3 (831). Crashed attempting forced-landing in Lister Ley, off Morsum Cliff, north of the Hindenburgdamm, on return from long-range night sortie 12.15 a.m. FF Uffz Otto Backhaus and BM Uffz August Haupt both drowned, BO Oberlt zur See [ ] Manke rescued unhurt. Aircraft 8L+KK 100% write-off."

Can anyone provide Manke's first name? "lilsis"?

[Matti Salonen]

Could it be Rolf Manke, which can be found in Luftwaffe Officers Career Summaries?

Matti

[Larry Hickey]

Frank,

I took your advice, joined the uboat.net forum, and posted a request about the 28 March incident. We'll see what happens.

Matti,

That looks like a BINGO to me. I've passed that on to Peter C.

Very productive responses to this series of requests. Thanx to all, especially "lilsis."