JG 52 victories

[Nokose]

I bought the book “Hitler’s Strategic Bombing Offensive” by Demitry Degtev. His book is mainly about the German bomber campaign before the Kursk battle but he does discuss German and Soviet fighter dogfights to some degree. I looked up the names of the 961 IAP PVO in the battle he described on the 09 May 1943 and they were listed as MIA while flying I-16s over Kuban.

09 May 1943
I-16 961 IAP PVO St. Serzhant Vladimir Bakhtin (MIA)
I-16 961 IAP PVO Serzhant Ilya Elagin (MIA)
I-16 961 IAP PVO Leytenant Anatoliy Kirchkov (MIA)

Major Helmut Bennemann Stab I/JG 52
I-16 (87) 10:03
I-16 (88) 10:06

Degtev indicated that Bennemann’s victories were from 961 IAP PVO. He indicated that all the other Soviet losses in that fight fell to German bomber gunners.

09 May 1943

[Nokose]

Battle of Kursk 05 July 1943
Soviet Pe-2 bomber raid on Rakovo. The Soviet formation was attacked at 10:20 - 10:25 (M) by 8 Bf 109 and Fw 190. The Pe-2 (2/195) 82 GBAP flown by Mladshiy Leytenant Boris Monin was seen to fall 4 km west of Kazatskoe and pilot and crew listed as MIA.

Hauptmann Josef Haibröck 1./JG 52 Pe-2 (25) 09:20 35 Ost/61132

Aircraft and crew remains located a few years ago at Yamnoe (Yakovlecskiy District) Belgorod Oblast.

[Nokose]

Operational Report # 09 Staff 265 IAD 28.04.1943 Staro-Nizhe- Steblievskaya

291 IAP 12:15-13:50 20 Yak-1 covered forces in the area of Krymskaya. 12:45 at an altitude of 3000-4000 m in the area covered met in an air battle with 6 Fw 190 and 14 Me 109. Claims by 291 IAP: Kapitan Labshiny shot down a Me-109. Group claim by St. Lt. Kryvakov and Lt. Labrenev a Me-109. (No Bf 109s were lost).
The Yak-1 flown by Leytenant Loginov made an emergency landing on the airfield at Slavyanskaya.
291 IAP losses:
Yak-1 Leytenant Nikolay D’yachenko
Yak-1 Leytenant Nikolay Luchenko
Yak-1 Starshiy Serzhant Mikolay Yastrebov
Yak-1B (32129) Starshiy Serzhant Aleksey Belostokskiy
Belostokskiy fell to Fw. Werner Quast 4//JG 52 Yak-1 (33) 11:40 PlQu 85183 at 4500 m

Can not define which one of these German pilots shot down the other Russian pilots.
Uffz. Manfred Bisenmann 5/JG 52 Yak-1 (1) 11:33 PlQu. 81181 at 6500 m
Lt. Helmut Haberda 5/JG 52 Yak-1 (43) 11:42 PlQu. 75131 at 2500 m
Fw. Viktor Petermann 5/JG 52 Yak-1 (24) 11:48 PlQu 86783 at 4500 m

[focusfocus]

Hello

Uffz.Manfred Biesenmann or Manfred Eisenmann? (T.Wood)
Michel

[Nokose]

Michel,
I saw Eisemann in Tony Woods list but went with Prien’s Biesenmann.

[Nokose]

Originally Posted by Nokose

Operational Report # 09 Staff 265 IAD 28.04.1943 Staro-Nizhe- Steblievskaya

291 IAP 12:15-13:50 20 Yak-1 covered forces in the area of Krymskaya. 12:45 at an altitude of 3000-4000 m in the area covered met in an air battle with 6 Fw 190 and 14 Me 109. Claims by 291 IAP: Kapitan Labshiny shot down a Me-109. Group claim by St. Lt. Kryvakov and Lt. Labrenev a Me-109. (No Bf 109s were lost).
The Yak-1 flown by Leytenant Loginov made an emergency landing on the airfield at Slavyanskaya.
291 IAP losses:
Yak-1 Leytenant Nikolay D’yachenko
Yak-1 Leytenant Nikolay Luchenko
Yak-1 Starshiy Serzhant Mikolay Yastrebov
Yak-1B (32129) Starshiy Serzhant Aleksey Belostokskiy
Belostokskiy fell to Fw. Werner Quast 4//JG 52 Yak-1 (33) 11:40 PlQu 85183 at 4500 m

Can not define which one of these German pilots shot down the other Russian pilots.
Uffz. Manfred Bisenmann 5/JG 52 Yak-1 (1) 11:33 PlQu. 81181 at 6500 m
Lt. Helmut Haberda 5/JG 52 Yak-1 (43) 11:42 PlQu. 75131 at 2500 m
Fw. Viktor Petermann 5/JG 52 Yak-1 (24) 11:48 PlQu 86783 at 4500 m

Since I posted these, I went back to the posts of the person who recovered Belostokiy’s aircraft and found another post of another Yak-1B. He found Yak-1B (#17116) of Leytenant Nikolay Dmitrievich D’yachenko (Дьяченко) in the area of the claim of Uffz. Manfred Bisenmann (or Eisenmann - will leave it to someone else to decide the correct last name)

[focusfocus]

Hello

I take note.
A small question:
Do you have any information about the losses of 293° IAP and 148°IAP (28/04/43)?

Best Regards
Michel

[Nokose]

Sorry Michel, I don’t have anything on them right now.

Operational Report of the Staff 219 BAD 05.09.1942 (TsAMO. F. 319, Op. 0004798, D. 0038, L. 159 page 3)
At 17:10 the Boston B-3 of the 859 BAP flown by Lt. Barabash, Serzhant Klinov, Mladshiy Serzhant Vorobev and Serzhant Ivan Lukyanenok were bombing Mozdok and took damage from German AAA. They were then attacked by Bf 109 as they started to turn. Lukyanenok’s Boston then started a steep dive to the ground and allegedly hit a German column.

Hptm. Adalbert Sommer 7/JG 52 claimed a Boston (38) 16:08 PlQu. 4443/ N. Georgjewsk

I believe the crews of the other Bostons were trying to give Lukyanenok and his crew a hero status by ramming the German column. It would seem that an aircraft going down steeply would not be controllable.

[Nokose]

03 June 1944 Romania
17:55 - 18:40 (M) 12 P-39 Airacobra of 100 GIAP (9 GIAD) led by Gds Lt. Ivan Babak covered Soviet ground forces at an altitude of 3000 - 4000 meters in the area of Movileni, Romania. They met in a dogfight with 50 Ju 87 under cover of 16 Fw 190 (SG?) with forward escort of 18 Bf 109. They claimed 4 Ju-87, 5 Me-109 and 1 Fw-190.
Gds Mayor Dmitriy Glinka
Ju-87 (40) west of Epureni, Romania
Ju-87 (41) west of Epureni
Fw-190 (42) Movileni station
Gds Mayor Mikhail Petrov
Me-109 (4) 4 km west of Movileni
Gds Ml. Lt. Vyacheslav Anton‘ev
Me-109 (5) Khorleshti (Horlesti, Romania)
Gds Lt. Ruchek
Me-109
Gds Ml. Lt. Grigoriy Dol‘nikov
Ju-87 (4) east of Movileni station
Me-109 (5) Motnieshti
2 group victories claimed
Soviet losses: P-39 Airacobra Gds Ml. Lt. Unreadable name, parachuted out of the fighter.
(Journal of Combat Operations 100 GIAP 29.05.1944 - 10.05.1945 page 10)

Obfhr. Franz Gärtner 5/JG 52 Airacobra (2) 17:17 at an altitude of 1000 meters PlQu. 78674

II/JG 52 reported no losses of Bf 109

[Charles Bavarois]

Regarding #129

Summarische Verlustmeldungen for II./JG 52 on 3rd June 1944 show 1 Bf 109 damaged by flak and 1 Bf 109 lost due to "Bordwaffenbeschuss, feindbeobachtet". Crew not harmed as no losses of pilots know.