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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)
Hi Laurent,
The claim : 30.06.43 / Fw. Kurt Dombacher 10./JG 51 MiG-3 64 322: at 4.500 m.09.25Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 277, corresponding to the sector of the 15th Air Force, where the 234th IAD indicates 2 combats, one between 2 Yak-7 and Me109 and the other between 2 Yak-7 and 6 FW6190. No Soviet losses and 3 FW-90 claimed (!!! - ???) There is therefore no corresponding Soviet loss: overclaimed at first sight Is there any reference anywhere to a 1 GIAP pilot, E V Taravkov, KIA this date? |
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)
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Hello, Taravkov Evgeny Vladimirovitch of the 1st Gv IAP is dead the 5th Jiuly 1943. during an interception mission, I'll try to find who shot him down but that day JG/51 has dozens of claims, I don't know if I'll have the time, so I'm not promising anything
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)
Cheers Laurent,
I have learned a lot from you |
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)
July 4, 1943
Soviet Report: On July 4, 1943, at 7:15 p.m. two La-5s of the 263th IAP (15th IAD/ 2nd IAK/ 1VA )piloted by Lieutenant (Squadron Leader) Choulepko Georgy Ilitch (left picture) and Lieutenant Senin Danil Ilitch (right picture) took off for a reconnaissance mission. S0 of Kirov, they are attacked by 2 FW-190s and Lieutenant Senin is shot down in the Kirov region. Lieutenant Choulepko lands alone at his field at 9:05 p.m., certainly after having refueled on another field. German claim: on 04.07.1943, the Oblt. Bernado Meneses of 15. (Span)/JG 51 claims at 6:55 p.m. (7:55 p.m. soviet times) a LaGG-5 in sector 45,763 (3 km NE of Kirov) at an altitude of 3,500-150 m. (Film C. 2032/II Anerk: No. 58). Scientifically confirmed victory
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)
Great work Laurent. Thanks!
Regards Antonio D. |
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5th July 1943.
Concerning the Taravkov death the report of the 1st VA give : At 8:05 p.m., 4 Yak-7s fought against 4 FW-190s following which 3 FW-190s were shot down and crushed near Kouïava station. ( 10km north Lioudinovo, Gradnez 44198) Loss: During the return to his airfield 10 km south of Sukhinitchi, pilot Torovkov parachuted while his Yak-7 was flying in an inverted position. The parachute did not open, the pilot died. No German claim matches, which seems normal since the Yak-7 flew 70 km before the pilot fatally tried to parachute. Concerning the Soviet claims can be 2/3 of overclaiming if we consider that Egon Raukes lost his life in this fight 3./J.G.54 Fl.Pl. Karatschew, absturz nach luftkampf FW-190 A5 n° 1301, 100%, Uffz, Raukes Egon, todt - (N°73/RL_2_III_1191)
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)
Courtois
I know that you are only answering a request from Nick Hector but I am a bit confused In post 142 you say Taravkov was killed on 5 July 1943 In post 146 you say Taravkov was killed on 5 June 1943 Which date is correct? Since you mention the loss of Raukes I take it 5 July is correct and not June? If the loss of Raukes in this context is correct it should be transferred to JG 54 victories. There is a separate topic about that. Cheers Stig |
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it's july naturally, the posts are always 80 years off, so if I forget the date or make a mistake when switching languages (I work simultaneously in German, English, French and Russian), you can correct it quite easily. Thank you for pointing out my mistake.
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Stig |
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Re: JG 51 victories (Part 2)
29th July 1943 : Two victories for Oblt. Herman Lücke.
At 4:45 p.m., 2 Yak-9s and 4 Yak-7s of the 18th GvIAP took off Andréï to protect Il-2s of the 224th ShAD in the Zlin' - Znamenskoe sector, where they were attacked by 4 then 3 FW-190s. During the fight, Second Lieutenant Arkhipov shot down 1 FW190 which crashed 10-15 km east of Zlyn'. Another was shot down by Captain Semenov who crashed in the Zlyn' sector. During the fight second lieutenant Boradavka Andrei Mikhaelevich (15.5.1921-?) and Kozlov Aleksei Ivanovitch (1922-1943) were killed. Second Lieutenant Boradavka was taken prisoner at Bolkhov. Zlyn': GNMV: 54698 From 4:20 p.m. to 5:25 p.m., 2 Yak-7s and 2 Yak-9s, during an escort mission of Il-2 of the 224th ShAD in the Zlyn' - Znamenskoe sector, were attacked by 6 FW-190s which shot down Second Lieutenant Ocinenko Parfery Romanovitch (1918 -1943) and Pilipeïko Konstantin Ivanovtich (1918 - 1943). According to the testimony of the crews of Stourmoviks one of the pilots parachuted into the Yagodnia sector. This mention is indicated for the second mission, whereas the prisoner is a pilot of the 1st mission. That day, JG 51 claimed 4 victories in a corresponding time slot. Maj. Fritz Losigkeit claims a Lagg-3 at 3:30 p.m, 3 km S of Kraniskovo ( (54654) ). The Oblt. Herman Lücke claims 2 Lagg-3s, the first at 3:33 p.m. around Znamenskoe (54687), the second 3:59 p.m. 10 km SE of Yagodnia. 13 km W of Bolkhov. (54622 The Fw. Wilhelm Küken claims at 3:49 p.m.a Lagg-3 still near Znamenskoe (54684) Below ; Pilipeyko Konstantin / Osipenko Parferiy/ Borodavka Andreï / Borodavka Andreï POW sheet (if you need the translation of the sheet, ask me, I don't think about it because I read German and Russian.):
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