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Old 13th October 2011, 18:01
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

nope havn't seen that site. the K-4 captioned rudder is interesting as it shows kill markings. Apparently some pilots even that late in the war were not afraid to display them.
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Apparently some pilots even that late in the war were not afraid to display them
I guess they had faith in victory Anyway- very good image of late war colors was in one old book Luftwaffe Aces, where is displayed rudder preserved in one airport.
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Old 13th October 2011, 23:38
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Perhaps that was the case. As far as rudders, I'm also doing a special section on that too. broken down into 3 groups. Mtt-Reg, Erla, & WNF.

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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

GREAT THREAD! I have many Late 109s to paint!
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Old 15th October 2011, 16:07
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Updated the stream with following machines

Bf 109 G-8 W.Nr. 200 2..
Bf 109 G-8 W.Nr. 201 231

Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 781 993
Bf 109 G-14/AS W.Nr. 786 331

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Old 15th October 2011, 16:31
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Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source

Hi there Gang!

I have an issue with the following G-6:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625383083572

The W.Nr. is barely legible as (1)63 606 and if confirmed points on a Mtt Regensburg Bf 109 G-6. As for the unit, my first thought was for a JG 26 plane, given the small white band and what I took as an equivalent black band, thus being the JG 26 RVB.

On scrutinizing the photograph, I'm not sure anymore about this interpretation. One will notice the very dark though mottled camouflage, and it could be thus possible that only a white band was applied.

Lastly, there is a location issue: according to FrankD8, the original e-bay seller ascertained this machine was found at Salzburg. The landscape and especially the tall pines does not make this really likely.

Any thoughts on those issues are highly appreciated
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Old 15th October 2011, 18:54
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The W.Nr. is barely legible as (1)63 606 and if confirmed points on a Mtt Regensburg Bf 109 G-6.
IMHO, position and style of the Werke Nummer, suggest that it is a 463 606, thus an Erla-produced Bf 109G-14.

Camouflage seems clearly to be a modified in-the-field version over the usual Erla pattern (which was already darker than MTT pattern, for example).

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IMHO, position and style of the Werke Nummer, suggest that it is a 463 606, thus an Erla-produced Bf 109G-14.
... but an W.Nr. 463 606 didn't exist. So it's more likely 460 606 or 464 606.

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Correction duly noted. Thanks as always, Jörg.

Then, I would bet on 464 606...BTW also the style of the white spiral on the spinner is typical of Bf 109G-14s of that batch...(I have seen only now the two other frontal shots).

Pity that the nose oil filler hatch can't be seen clearly, because I would bet this aircraft belongs to those G-14s fitted with the bigger oil nose tank (from "horseshoe" shape to annular one) and thus had the "higher" placed one, like on G-10s and K-4s.
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Correction duly noted. Thanks as always, Jörg.

Then, I would bet on 464 606...BTW also the style of the white spiral on the spinner is typical of Bf 109G-14s of that batch...(I have seen only now the two other frontal shots).

Pity that the nose oil filler hatch can't be seen clearly, because I would bet this aircraft belongs to those G-14s fitted with the bigger oil nose tank (from "horseshoe" shape to annular one) and thus had the "higher" placed one, like on G-10s and K-4s.

Jörg and Ferdinando,

All my thanks for correcting and narrowing down the W.Nr. range. It is much appreciated. You are duly credited in the stream, as Peter, from LEMB who tracked the original site harboring this set of three pictures (http://www.stalag18a.org.uk/)

Srecko, looking forward for your profile.
Oberst, your info is very interesting. May I ask for your source?

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