German docs in TSAMO

[azapf1972]

Dan,

actually this is running much smoother than anticipated... so far, I grabbed

• Findbuch 12466 - Panzerarmeen
• Findbuch 12472 - AOK 1-10, 1937-1945
• Findbuch 12476 - Flakkorps und Flakdivisionen

Actually, the last one is just downloading. I intend to continue with 12461, 12478, 12485...

I need to find a way to convert the masses of JPGs to PDFs but that comes last, once I got all data... I am not sure if they will ignore me leeching or do something about it... but until then...

Andreas

PS: Happy to share afterwards

[Mikael Olrog]

Following your efforts with interest Andreas!

[Larry deZeng]

I have already started working 12476. For those interested, Akte 2 contains nearly 600 daily reports to and from I. Flakkorps in S Russia giving details on every single VVS aircraft claimed. There is soooo much of it that it would take someone about one year full time to record each and every one of them. Once again, these are German Flak claims and not fighter claims.

L.

[Dénes Bernád]

Larry, any positive identification of the Soviet arcraft shot down? Like serial/cosntroction number, or VVS unit (from prisoners)? Thanks.

[azapf1972]

OK, NOW I could use some help: I have downloaded approx. 150.000 individual pages so far. They are now sitting on my disk drive. I need to maintain a "technical" organization so when I repeat the process when new documents show up I don't download what I already got once more. Therefore, the organization is as follows:

1. Each Catalog has a directory within this folder, following the catalog's number (e.g. 12450, 12460, etc.)
2. Within each Catalog Directory, each file has its own sub-directory, identified by the file's ID (e.g. 5932, 5937, etc.) - this is the number you see when you are closely looking at the URL for each file - it goes http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/nodes/[XXXX]-[TITLE] where XXXX is the number I am referring to. I need to maintain these so I later know which files are new and which are not.
3. Within each file's directory are the individual pages - prefixed by a 7digit number I created just in case the pages are not coming "in sequence" - then a dash and then the actual page number as given by the server. Doing this guarantees the proper sequencing on the file system.
4. Last but not least, within each file's directory is one XML file that gives the file's metadata - Signature, Title, Annotation, Start- and Enddate, and number of pages (if provided)

To make downloads easier, in the folder I am sharing you fill find the structure described above but each catalog directory contains one ZIP File for each of the files contained (and the ZIP contains the directory and the individual pages) - so far so clear?

Here is the link to the folder. You need to navigate into the directory, then into any zip file and then use the download button from within to download the ZIP...

I am giving you 12476 tonight which is the Flakkorps and Flakdivisions - I need some folks to double-check the files you can grab against the website. In other words: if I give you a file, I need a few of you to grab some of them and make sure that I grabbed the file correctly: all pages included, metadata correct, zoom level as best as the server provides (I always picked level 8, I did not find a file I could zoom in more).

My computer will be zipping and uploading over the next hours... remember, these files are huge so this will take a while (despite my fast upload line). If you don't see the files, come back later...

Now, happy leeching and let me know what you find, good or bad so I know what I might have to correct...

Andreas

[Dan History]

Originally Posted by azapf1972

Now, happy leeching and let me know what you find, good or bad so I know what I might have to correct...

Andreas

Thank you very much indeed, Andreas! This moment should become known as "the Great Germandocs Revolution"

I finally have some time today, so will download some files and will e-mail you if I find any problems among the files that I download.

Kind regards,

Dan

[Larry deZeng]

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád

Larry, any positive identification of the Soviet arcraft shot down? Like serial/cosntroction number, or VVS unit (from prisoners)? Thanks.

Hi Dénes,

No, not with the ones I have seen so far. These are just Batterie und Abteilungen reports that give the date, time, altitude, probable VVS target, number of shells fired and either where the aircraft probable came down or the condition of the aircraft when it was last seen, i.e., smoke coming from the engine and losing altitude headed east. I'll keep you in mind if I come across any of the things you have an interest in.


L.

[azapf1972]

Gentlefolks,

After providing "12476 - Flakkorps and Flakdivisionen" yesterday, I will add other catalogs today. So far, I only got one person giving me feedback via eMail, indicating that the small number of files checked seemed OK. So I assume, the process is working unless someone here proofs me wrong

So I am adding

• Findbuch 12471 - Heeresgruppe E, F
• Findbuch 12487 - Unterlagen zu Kompanien der Wehrmacht
• Findbuch 12495 - Rückwärtige Heeres- und Armeegebiete der Wehrmacht
• Findbuch 12497 - Amt Ausland / Abwehr im OKW

In addition, "12474 - Armeekorps" is loading tonight and is automatically adding itself to the Dropbox link above. There will be 787 files to load so this one will take

When done with that, I will add "12450 - OKW" and "12451 - OKH" just for completeness (and because I need them in case they add to them later).

I did not mention it before but I will keep my files organized as the individual JPG per Page - but if you prefer PDF, you can easily create a PDF from the JPGs with a variety of (often free) tools.

Andreas

[Andrey Kuznetsov]

Hi Dénes,

It seems Lfl.4's order 11.9.42 about Romanian aviation with the list of units and their strength would be interesting for you:
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/pages/862642/zooms/8
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/pages/862643/zooms/8
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/pages/862644/zooms/8

Best regards,
Andrey

[Dan History]

Originally Posted by Mikael Olrog

Following your efforts with interest Andreas!

Mikael,

You will be particularly interested in the following pages where problems with Do 17 operations are mentioned.

They come from the following document:

Akte 31. Unterlagen der Ia-Abteilung des Generalkommandos des I. Flakkorps: Anlagen zum KTB des Generalkommandos des I. Flakkorps, Band C – Lagemeldungen der Luftwaffengruppe Kaukasus, Feindlageberichte und Abschussmeldungen des Ic-Offiziers der Luftwaffengruppe u.a.

http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/d...inspect/zoom/8
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/d...inspect/zoom/8
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/d...inspect/zoom/8
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/d...inspect/zoom/8
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/d...inspect/zoom/8
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/d...inspect/zoom/8

Originally Posted by Larry deZeng

Akte 2 contains nearly 600 daily reports to and from I. Flakkorps in S Russia giving details on every single VVS aircraft claimed

Larry,

Thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention. I would point out that the flak claims appear to be very inflated compared to true Soviet losses, so it will be difficult to match claims and losses in this case.

Kind regards,

Dan